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Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:Which in turn shows that he is a talented fighter considering most were ( correctly, in my opinion ) picking him to knock out 6ft 9 18st "monster" in double quick time.

The Ruiz fight was decent and a good win, Barrett was entertaining. Audley was a lamb to the slaughter as was Bonin ( that was a nice finish )
Wlad was a snorefest obviously as was Valuev ( but he got the result that mattered )

Mediocre at heavy apparently, yet no current British heavy will get close to his achievements at the weight! ( Joshua ain't entered the pro ranks yet )

In a couple of years I think people will look back at this and think about the time when Tyson Fury almost fought David Haye and how it was a lucky escape for the big fella

Fury can beat HAYE.
Joshua will not make it to World Champion, he has that less than natural fighter look to him.
Haye is overrated.

Haye may be over rated but he is some leagues above Fury, how long would guys like Rogan last against haye?

How old was Tyson at the time? Tyson has come on leaps and bounds.
How many punches could HAYE take off ANY heavy?
Haye is an on top fighter, when it does not go his way he retreats.
As Holyfield would say 'Haye don;t bend, he breaks'!

You think Lolenga Mock could deck Fury?
Mock was a SuperMiddle, I brought this up because you mentioned Rogan - the past.

I wish Haye would #### off!

Tom Ford wrote: I think Haye KNOWS it would be harder tan he ever imagined. It just hit him that he is fighting a real fighting man AND then he decided to get the blade out..That was a joke!

I think you Fury nutt huggers im a fan but you need a reality check fury was nothing other than a hand picked haye opponent designed to make him look good when he bashed him to pieces in a couple of rounds, he has demonstrated absolutely nothing that would make a non bias outsider think he could beat haye, and haye has done by far enough to demonstrate he would beat fury with ease. The betting odds put haye at an overwhelming favourite. Haye certainly did not fear tyson, and as soon as haye advised he had a cut fury started looking for excuses to have the fight cancelled rather than postponed. Fury sounded like a man trying to convince himself he could win through the whole thing, if he honestly believed he was the greatest he would have stepped in with price when he had the chance at a big payday.

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote: I think Haye KNOWS it would be harder tan he ever imagined. It just hit him that he is fighting a real fighting man AND then he decided to get the blade out..That was a joke!

I think you Fury nutt huggers im a fan but you need a reality check fury was nothing other than a hand picked haye opponent designed to make him look good when he bashed him to pieces in a couple of rounds, he has demonstrated absolutely nothing that would make a non bias outsider think he could beat haye, and haye has done by far enough to demonstrate he would beat fury with ease. The betting odds put haye at an overwhelming favourite. Haye certainly did not fear tyson, and as soon as haye advised he had a cut fury started looking for excuses to have the fight cancelled rather than postponed. Fury sounded like a man trying to convince himself he could win through the whole thing, if he honestly believed he was the greatest he would have stepped in with price when he had the chance at a big payday.

Be calm.

Wlad would rather fight Tyson than Haye. Thats why Tyson wants to move on,imo.
Haye is such an unreliable sort,why wait for a man who pulls out of fights all the time?
Tyson Vs Chisora December, winner gets Wlad.

Forget Haye..

As for odds, wasn't Holyfield opening at 49/1 against Tyson.

Douglas 50/1?

Tom Ford wrote:
How old was Tyson at the time? Tyson has come on leaps and bounds.
How many punches could HAYE take off ANY heavy?
Haye is an on top fighter, when it does not go his way he retreats.
As Holyfield would say 'Haye don;t bend, he breaks'!

You think Lolenga Mock could deck Fury?
Mock was a SuperMiddle, I brought this up because you mentioned Rogan - the past.

Mock was hayes 7th fight haye also obliterated him, pajkic dropped fury i dont recall him being anything like a world class destroyer, and the rogan fight was LAST YEAR so you might want to brush up on you boxing knowledge instead of siting it as the distant past when it was 3 fights ago.

Haye went the distance with wlad - on what planet does anything fury has shown put him in that type of category? Fury also couldnt get rid of a fat out of shape bored chisora, an in shape and hungry chisora got smashed to pieces by haye.

i see you realised you had posted a load of tosh and deleted or edited your post, luckily its kept in my quote.

I love the 'real fighting man' comments.

What is that exactly?

Look at his eye you tool

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:
How old was Tyson at the time? Tyson has come on leaps and bounds.
How many punches could HAYE take off ANY heavy?
Haye is an on top fighter, when it does not go his way he retreats.
As Holyfield would say 'Haye don;t bend, he breaks'!

You think Lolenga Mock could deck Fury?
Mock was a SuperMiddle, I brought this up because you mentioned Rogan - the past.

Mock was hayes 7th fight haye also obliterated him, pajkic dropped fury i dont recall him being anything like a world class destroyer, and the rogan fight was LAST YEAR so you might want to brush up on you boxing knowledge instead of siting it as the distant past when it was 3 fights ago.

Haye went the distance with wlad - on what planet does anything fury has shown put him in that type of category? Fury also couldnt get rid of a fat out of shape bored chisora, an in shape and hungry chisora got smashed to pieces by haye.

Is last year not THE PAST?

Tom Ford wrote:

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote: I think Haye KNOWS it would be harder tan he ever imagined. It just hit him that he is fighting a real fighting man AND then he decided to get the blade out..That was a joke!

I think you Fury nutt huggers im a fan but you need a reality check fury was nothing other than a hand picked haye opponent designed to make him look good when he bashed him to pieces in a couple of rounds, he has demonstrated absolutely nothing that would make a non bias outsider think he could beat haye, and haye has done by far enough to demonstrate he would beat fury with ease. The betting odds put haye at an overwhelming favourite. Haye certainly did not fear tyson, and as soon as haye advised he had a cut fury started looking for excuses to have the fight cancelled rather than postponed. Fury sounded like a man trying to convince himself he could win through the whole thing, if he honestly believed he was the greatest he would have stepped in with price when he had the chance at a big payday.

Be calm.

Wlad would rather fight Tyson than Haye. Thats why Tyson wants to move on,imo.
Haye is such an unreliable sort,why wait for a man who pulls out of fights all the time?
Tyson Vs Chisora December, winner gets Wlad.

Forget Haye..

As for odds, wasn't Holyfield opening at 49/1 against Tyson.

Douglas 50/1?

Holyfield was 25-1 I believe.

Finn wrote:i see you realised you had posted a load of tosh and deleted or edited your post, luckily its kept in my quote.

I did not edit anything, you drunk?

I know he was 49/1 because I was saving up for a place and thought about putting £1K on it to buy a flat. By the time I did it he was 9/1.............and I put on £50.00.

Forgot the Chisora fight, got to give Haye credit there, he absolutely smashed him up, and Chisora has always shown a good chin.

I honestly think the Fury's are pretty ok with the situation, gutted about losing the money, but I don't think that Fury really thought he was going to win, no matter what he said - during the press conference he couldn't come up with any kind of realistic way he was going to win, mainly because he couldn't envisage it himself.

Tom Ford wrote:I know he was 49/1 because I was saving up for a place and thought about putting £1K on it to buy a flat. By the time I did it he was 9/1.............and I put on £50.00.

So he was 49-1 for how long precisely?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:I know he was 49/1 because I was saving up for a place and thought about putting £1K on it to buy a flat. By the time I did it he was 9/1.............and I put on £50.00.

So he was 49-1 for how long precisely?

As I said, he OPENED at 49/1 so it might not have been for long. I am not a real gambler so did not realise odds move so much.

At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

lillywhite14 wrote:

I love the 'real fighting man' comments.

What is that exactly?

A man who will have to be carried out on his shield and not blame his toe.

Tom Ford wrote:At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

well audley harrison beat rogan earlier this year and haye ko'd him in 3 rounds. So which would you consider the better win? Pajkic floored fury, and cunningham who is a cruiser also floored him so lets not talk about chins and smaller men.

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

well audley harrison beat rogan earlier this year and haye ko'd him in 3 rounds. So which would you consider the better win? Pajkic floored fury, and cunningham who is a cruiser also floored him so lets not talk about chins.

The point is they were the same age. Haye Vs Mock Fury Vs Rogan.

Cunningham? Better to be floored by a 15/16st ex cruiser than a SM..agree?

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

well audley harrison beat rogan earlier this year and haye ko'd him in 3 rounds. So which would you consider the better win? Pajkic floored fury, and cunningham who is a cruiser also floored him so lets not talk about chins.

Let's not talk about chins? Fury gets UP, I didn't see Haye get up and win when the C.A.T made an arse of him a few years back!

ThereByTheGrace wrote:

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

well audley harrison beat rogan earlier this year and haye ko'd him in 3 rounds. So which would you consider the better win? Pajkic floored fury, and cunningham who is a cruiser also floored him so lets not talk about chins.

Let's not talk about chins? Fury gets UP, I didn't see Haye get up and win when the C.A.T made an arse of him a few years back!

haye got up, carl thompson is better than anyone fury has fought and that was hayes 10th fight 9 years ago. Fury arguably lost to mcdermott and got the decision in their first meeting. I believe the majority called that a robbery.

Tom Ford wrote:

Finn wrote:

Tom Ford wrote:At roughly the same age:

HAYE being chinned by MOCK who is a much smaller man.
Tyson beating Rogan with ease.

What is better? Being chinned by a SM or beating a Heavyweight?

well audley harrison beat rogan earlier this year and haye ko'd him in 3 rounds. So which would you consider the better win? Pajkic floored fury, and cunningham who is a cruiser also floored him so lets not talk about chins.

The point is they were the same age. Haye Vs Mock Fury Vs Rogan.

Cunningham? Better to be floored by a 15/16st ex cruiser than a SM..agree?

you think thats its better that a 19st 6'9 heavy was dropped in his last fight against a guys who's career has been at cruiser. straws grasping?

whats age got to do with anything most sane people would base things on years of experience.

Finn wrote: haye got up, carl thompson is better than anyone fury has fought and that was hayes 10th fight 9 years ago. Fury arguably lost to mcdermott and got the decision in their first meeting. I believe the majority called that a robbery.

Thompson better than Cunningham? Really?

Finn, give up.
Hayes a chinny mouthy git who can punch.

Is Thompson better than Cunningham? Not so sure about that. Fury did lose and the judges gave him a reprieve but he did fix that shortly soon after.

Haye's heart has always been in question; for his sake he should've spent more time as Cruiserweight as he would've been an ATG at that level.

I think the delay in the fight will ironically work in Fury's favour.