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Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:30
by MightyWarrior
Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:38
by keithmoonhangover
MightyWarrior wrote:Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history
More of a mismatch than a fat Buster Douglas against prime Holyfield?

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:40
by Andrew
I'd fancy Furys chances against Povetkin tbh

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:48
by MightyWarrior
keithmoonhangover wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history
More of a mismatch than a fat Buster Douglas against prime Holyfield?
No it'll surely be better than that, and not forgetting Tyson/Seldon ( wish I could ) ..... But incredible they're paying that type of money for what looks an easy night for Wlad.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:55
by keithmoonhangover
MightyWarrior wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history
More of a mismatch than a fat Buster Douglas against prime Holyfield?
No it'll surely be better than that, and not forgetting Tyson/Seldon ( wish I could ) ..... But incredible they're paying that type of money for what looks an easy night for Wlad.
It only looks like an easy night. He's gonna be kissing canvas all night.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:07
by dbflex
keithmoonhangover wrote:
It only looks like an easy night. He's gonna be kissing canvas all night.
Just out of curiosity, what has convinced you of this?

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:09
by jamesmcdonnell
keithmoonhangover wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history
More of a mismatch than a fat Buster Douglas against prime Holyfield?


What's your point? Buster lost to Holyfield......???

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:32
by JimStone
Like everybody else with a decent dig, Pov has a puncher's chance against Wlad and that's it.

Edit: he's also got a chance if the fix comes off.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:33
by keithmoonhangover
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Pov's getting splattered. The lump could barely handle Marco Huck. The biggest $25 million mismatch in history
More of a mismatch than a fat Buster Douglas against prime Holyfield?


What's your point? Buster lost to Holyfield......???
I only mentioned it because that's the only fight with a higher purse bid and on the night it was a mismatch.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:39
by keithmoonhangover
dbflex wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
It only looks like an easy night. He's gonna be kissing canvas all night.
Just out of curiosity, what has convinced you of this?
A motivated Povetkin has good foot work, combinations, chin, ring savvy and accuracy. He is also very strong in the clinches.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:42
by dbflex
I appreciate your rationale and concur with elements of it. I don't agree that Povetkin wins but at least you can support your argument. Read BN on Thursday to see how I support mine.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:52
by addi
had a £10 treble of fury, povetkin and Bradley. not sur how the fury bet works now whether I just get the double or if the other two come up I have to wait until feb. all 3 were underdogs though. fancy povetkin based on thr fact that his team must really fancy him to put all that money up to get the fight, thought if they can gamble 17 mill on there man I can stump up a tenner, fancied fury all day to beat haye and after recent events think I was right, don't think haye fancied it at all, hence the fact that he was still sparring so close to the fight, he never looked confident in any presser I saw, and think Bradley got a very good chance, think it's a 50/50 fight.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 17:21
by Kilburn
dbflex wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
It only looks like an easy night. He's gonna be kissing canvas all night.
Just out of curiosity, what has convinced you of this?
Personally I've always suspected that Keith's apparent analytical eureka moment around this fight actually has more to do with his desire to see Tyson Fury rise to the top of the heavyweight division. With Vlad removed, the chances of this happening are somewhat improved...

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 18:29
by Bard of Boxrec
I think there's more chance of Povetkin pulling out before the fight in his latest ritual of ducking Wlad than Aleksandr actually beating him.

I would love for it to happen, but it just won't.

If it somehow did though, surely it would put an end to all these claims Wlad was an all-time great.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 19:20
by Datsue
Sasha has regressed imo since he lost to Chambers. He's a short-arsed, short-armed volume puncher. He couldn't budge Huck, FFS.

All the guys who've troubled Wlad have had one thing in common: one-punch firepower. He has never ever shown vulnerabilities to a volume puncher.

Without this equaliser--& lacking height & reach, he will be up against it to get inside anyway--Povetkin is doomed to a dreary, one-sided clutchathon of a beating, Chagaev-stylee.

Nine rounds. Seven if Wlad feels like getting home early to watch the telly.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 22:11
by Freedom2013
keithmoonhangover wrote:I know it sounds crazy mate, but Povetkin is the most underrated boxer on the planet.
I agree he's underrated.

He's very talented, most people don't know Povetkin had arguably the best amateur record of all time at super-heavyweight, winning about 12 gold medals in international tournaments.

I don't think he'll beat Wlad, but he'll give him his toughest fight in many years.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 01:35
by Hagler2002
'NURSE'

Keith needs his medication!

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 01:44
by Boxing Prospect
Be hilarious if Fury "pickpockets" Haye and fights Povetkin before Haye gets the chance, of course, if Povetkin wins.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 03:04
by The Insider
I'd love you to be right Mr Moonhangover just for something to happen to shake up the heavies a bit but I can only see Klit measuring him all night and one two"ing" him into oblivion. I won't be touching this one but I wish you the best of luck. You gotta follow your hunches :TU:

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 06:47
by loaded_gloves
Wladimir Klitschko is less-worse than Alexander Povfatkin.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 08:49
by keithmoonhangover
loaded_gloves wrote:Wladimir Klitschko is less-worse than Alexander Povfatkin.
Full of positivity as usual. :roll:

I bet you're the life and soul on a night out on the lash.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 17:23
by keithmoonhangover
Kilburn wrote:
dbflex wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
It only looks like an easy night. He's gonna be kissing canvas all night.
Just out of curiosity, what has convinced you of this?
Personally I've always suspected that Keith's apparent analytical eureka moment around this fight actually has more to do with his desire to see Tyson Fury rise to the top of the heavyweight division. With Vlad removed, the chances of this happening are somewhat improved...
Rumbled. :oops:

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 17:25
by keithmoonhangover
Datsue wrote:Sasha has regressed imo since he lost to Chambers.
Give your head a shake, he beat Chambers with ease.

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 17:26
by keithmoonhangover
Hagler2002 wrote:'NURSE'

Keith needs his medication!
:lol: :TU:

Re: Povetkin beats Wlad on Saturday... who's with me?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 17:41
by JimJim2009
SNG wrote:
Finch wrote:Wonder if Povetkin has already lost this fight given he's been poo scared of Wlad in the past by ducking him on a number of occasions.
This is the reason why a guy like Wilder is fighting stiffs. If you string together two or three semi-decent wins these days you're in title contention in this HW division, fighters like Povetkin need time to develop and gain experience, he would have had no chance beating Wlad a couple of years ago, I don't think he'll win now but the fights between then and now are invaluable experience going into a fight like this.
Good point about Wilder. I think there is another reason why Wilder is fighting stiffs - I don't think he can take any sort of punch. Credit to him for finally stepping up the level of opposition this year. I think from a management strategy point of view it makes perfect sense to time his rise to the top of the rankings as and when the Klitschko's retire. I am absolutely convinced that his punch resistance will be no better than Seth Mitchell's.

I disagree about Povetkin, I think his best chance has come and gone. I don't see how the fights he's had in the last two years will give him the slightest benefit in terms of experience. Fighters come up against the Klitschko's and generally can't do a thing with them, stylewise - so they amble after them, and get beaten up, discouraged, and stopped or thrashed on points. Nothing they've encountered along the way helps them deal with the style of Wlad or Vitali. I can't see how Povetkin's fights with Rahman, Huck and two total, complete no-hopers in Boswell and Wawrzsyk can help him for what is required against Wlad. He is going to have to avoid taking too much punishment, get around the jab, and land his own punches on Wlad. Otherwise he is going to take a right fxxking hiding for as long as the fight lasts.