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Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:11
by orbtastic
So presumably his peak ended the minute Douglas smashed the crap out of him?
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:30
by JimStone
orbtastic wrote:So presumably his peak ended the minute Douglas smashed the crap out of him?
DON'T YOU GET IT MAN!? IT WAS THE BITCH'S FAULT!!!! THAT WASN'T MIKE IN THERE. The guy who knocked out the bums, the coke heads, the fatties, the oldies, and the light-heavy was UNFUCKINGBEATABLE. Cus, Teddy, Cayton, Jimmy Jacobs, Rooney, STEVE LOTT, he NEEDED those guys. He wasn't Mike without them. fornicate-DON-KING.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:32
by JimStone
...AND fornicate-ROBIN-GIVENS and her fornicating-HO-MAMMA.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:42
by Hagler2002
tallsdav wrote:tyson was massively over rated.
David haye would probably have done him.
Possibly the most dildonic post I've ever read on here!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:49
by tallsdav
Hagler2002 wrote:tallsdav wrote:tyson was massively over rated.
David haye would probably have done him.
Possibly the most dildonic post I've ever read on here!
Thanks mate. Tyson was still bang average.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 16:50
by curtis wood
tysons peak didn't last long but a prime Tyson was very good, would have eaten david haye alive and vlad klit
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 18:43
by Bard of Boxrec
loaded_gloves wrote:You've got to be kidding me?
I actually despair over boxrec.
For the record: Tyson wins by KO inside 30 seconds - his quickest, easiest win. While unconscious and twitching on the canvas, Wladimir's bowels loosen and he involuntarily shats himself.
I totally disagree.
The shitting himself would be during the 30 seconds of the fight that Wlad is conscious.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 19:05
by Tomasino
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 03:42
by the truth
All they tyson haters come out to play , ffs listen a 21 year old tyson beats anyone in history quite easy, including a prime allegedly (juiced)holyfield excerpt Ali , watch the tapes of him man.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 04:50
by danconnollyeire
He was a beast, people forget his speed mixed with power, Wlad's nightmare. Anyone who thinks Tyson was average is a joke
The second Wlad reached out for a clinch = game over
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 05:25
by Bard of Boxrec
Sadly it would take a beast like Mike decapitating Wlad in seconds to make some people realise just how limited Klitschko really is
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 05:46
by JimStone
the truth wrote:All they tyson haters come out to play , ffs listen a 21 year old tyson beats anyone in history quite easy, including a prime allegedly (juiced)holyfield excerpt Ali , watch the tapes of him man.
There are no Tyson "haters". There are an awful lot of Tyson "nuthuggers" and zealots though. BTW I always have a slight chuckle whenever anyone talking about Holyfield vs Tyson slings allegations at Evander and only Evander. Put it this way, imagine what Joe Louis would've been like if he had access to the stuff that was available when Evander AND Mike were in their respective primes.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 05:48
by JimStone
danconnollyeire wrote:Anyone who thinks Tyson was average is a joke.
Agreed. I don't think I have ever heard anybody claim that though, so why make the statement?
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 05:55
by Counter-puncher
danconnollyeire wrote:He was a beast, people forget his speed mixed with power, Wlad's nightmare. Anyone who thinks Tyson was average is a joke
The second Wlad reached out for a clinch = game over
aye good point, Bonecrusher Smith tried initiating clinches and look where that got him, he soon paid for that error.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:36
by Bard of Boxrec
Counter-puncher wrote:danconnollyeire wrote:He was a beast, people forget his speed mixed with power, Wlad's nightmare. Anyone who thinks Tyson was average is a joke
The second Wlad reached out for a clinch = game over
aye good point, Bonecrusher Smith tried initiating clinches and look where that got him, he soon paid for that error.
Smith was a tough, tough man. Wlad? Not so much. Are you one of the ones who picked Wlad?
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:40
by danconnollyeire
Counter-puncher wrote:danconnollyeire wrote:He was a beast, people forget his speed mixed with power, Wlad's nightmare. Anyone who thinks Tyson was average is a joke
The second Wlad reached out for a clinch = game over
aye good point, Bonecrusher Smith tried initiating clinches and look where that got him, he soon paid for that error.
He did... by losing a one sided points decision, you're correct there
To suggest Wlad has the chin to take one of Tyson's shots is crazy. He would land... early
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:42
by Counter-puncher
sure, everybody who ever tried to clinch with Tyson got knocked out, it was near-impossible for a man with much longer arms to tie up the 5'10" short-armed Tyson.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:44
by danconnollyeire
Counter-puncher wrote:sure, everybody who ever tried to clinch with Tyson got knocked out, it was near-impossible for a man with much longer arms to tie up the 5'10" short-armed Tyson.
Your argument makes no sense. Yes it is possible for anyone to clinch anyone. No, Wlad has no chin. Yes, Wlad is slow. Yes, prime Tyson was very fast and powerful...
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:51
by mickey1975
danconnollyeire wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:sure, everybody who ever tried to clinch with Tyson got knocked out, it was near-impossible for a man with much longer arms to tie up the 5'10" short-armed Tyson.
Your argument makes no sense. Yes it is possible for anyone to clinch anyone. No, Wlad has no chin. Yes, Wlad is slow. Yes, prime Tyson was very fast and powerful...
His argument makes a lot of sense. Wlad is much bigger, and better, than men like Bonecrusher and Tony Tucker. Both men who Mike fought in his prime.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 06:51
by J
SARCASM DANNY SARCASM
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 07:37
by jamesmcdonnell
keithmoonhangover wrote:I think you've got it wrong fellas. If Manny Stewart is in his corner, then Wlad's plan would be to survive and take it into the later rounds. If Wlad comes out at the first bell and is trying to survive, then there's no reason what it couldn't become a clinch fest like the Bonecrusher fight. One thing a lot of people forget is that Tyson was not a great inside fighter. These are probably the same people that think Tyson was the master of the staredown. If Wlad's aim is survival, then it could well be Tyson by unanimous decision.
I think this is quite feasible - Wlad would have held on for dear life, either getting DQ'd or losing a wide decision. If he tried to actually win the fight rather than surviving, the fight would have been over the first time Mike landed a left hook, Mike was a great finisher, and no way would Wlad have survived once he was hurt.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 07:44
by Counter-puncher
J wrote:SARCASM DANNY SARCASM
there's certainly a 'chasm' of one sort or another
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 07:46
by the truth
Some of you lot go on like tyson was average , at his peak he was top 3 heavyweight of all time peak for peak, he lost hunger after jail and was deteriorating per jail , as for Holyfield a short notice bert cooper nearly smoked him but you think a 21 year old tyson would of lost to him , lol ok
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 07:53
by orbtastic
Aaah right, Douglas was post-prison then?
Re: Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko
Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 08:01
by Counter-puncher
danconnollyeire wrote:He was a beast, people forget his speed mixed with power
now you mention it, that's a good point, I don't think I've ever seen anyone on the internet ever mention Tyson's speed and power. glad we had you around to keep us focussed on the less-than-obvious details.
something to do with Cus, also?
