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man wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:What sound? I thought he always entered without any music in his heyday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmvfb8al0QE

Cool...yeah that's pretty menacing I suppose. I think I could've come up with something more menacing, but it definitely would add another layer of fear to you if you were already scared.

Funniest thing I heard said more than once, shortly after the 1st loss to Holyfield. "Tyson hates it when guys fight back"

I dont understand the question entirely. How could you not be intimidated by a man who was blowing people away inside of two rounds or less? But if you were to ask, what if Spinks and others came in with no fear against Tyson--- I think the results would of been more devestating. Alot of those guys lasted as long as they did because they were using every defensive trick they could think of or were running away from Tyson.

I think it had a lot to do with his weird early persona out of the ring. He was soft spoken, lisping, pigeon fancying; far from the classic tough guy, he was someone other fighters might have expected to bully, but was capable of profound and frightening violence. To me, it painted a picture of a properly crazy man, and crazy people are way more frightening than tough guys.

I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Seldon, Stewart and Spinks went down out of horror.

Seldon even wobbled upon getting up from a nothing punch though, so that makes it even more ridiculous.

Spinks just stayed down.

I never saw the Stewart fight so I'm not sure about that one.

It's like man says, these guys were so scared it's like they would legitimately CONVINCE themselves they were hurt even if there was no physical evidence to suggest they could've been.

You have to watch the Stewart fight.

The only fighter I have seen who looked more scared than Stewart before a fight was Tyson himself against Holyfield in the rematch.

Stewart would have fallen over if Tyson had shouted 'boo' at him!

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

definitely. it was not like the fear he evoked
came out of nowhere. nevertheless, fighters
seem to have been taken out in unusual ways
by mike tyson.

man wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

definitely. it was not like the fear he evoked
came out of nowhere. nevertheless, fighters
seem to have been taken out in unusual ways
by mike tyson.

So, who would have beaten him, that didn't, if they weren't scared? I can't think of anyone.

Let's be fair. Fear is a part of the game.

Once it went he was less of a fighter for sure. But even so...

Ezzard wrote:Let's be fair. Fear is a part of the game.

Once it went he was less of a fighter for sure. But even so...

I honestly don't think he was. Mike was Mike.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

Definitely, but people were more scared of him than they have tended to be of other concussive punchers. To pick a couple, do you recall the same sort of raw fear of Julian Jackson, or Gerald McClellan? Without the brutal destructive power, it would have meant nothing, but I feel like how oddness played a part, even if only a small one.

SamWise72 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

Definitely, but people were more scared of him than they have tended to be of other concussive punchers. To pick a couple, do you recall the same sort of raw fear of Julian Jackson, or Gerald McClellan? Without the brutal destructive power, it would have meant nothing, but I feel like how oddness played a part, even if only a small one.

I think he was better than the guys he beat out of intimidation anyway.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

SamWise72 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think it had more to do with the brutal knockouts he scored on the way up.

Definitely, but people were more scared of him than they have tended to be of other concussive punchers. To pick a couple, do you recall the same sort of raw fear of Julian Jackson, or Gerald McClellan? Without the brutal destructive power, it would have meant nothing, but I feel like how oddness played a part, even if only a small one.

I think he was better than the guys he beat out of intimidation anyway.

I agree, but wouldn't you have liked to see Spinks try to win? Think of how Tucker outboxed him early on, or the way Biggs won the first few rounds; I believe he would have got to Spinks in the end, but I think that he'd be less feted if it had taken him 7 rounds. Spinks and Tubbs are the two I feel should have given him competitive fights before losing.

Sure, I was a Spinks fan and watching him walk to the ring I knew he wouldn't make it out of 1. That fight needed to happen a couple years earlier. Tucker wasn't afraid of Tyson, though I think his success is over played now.

Biggs? I remember him winning the first round and then taking the worst beating I've ever seen Tyson dish out.

I never saw much in Tubbs, he has a lot of fans on here. Maybe I missed something.

SamWise72 wrote:I agree, but wouldn't you have liked to see Spinks try to win?

this fight makes spink's record maybe the weirdest
in boxing history. roberto baggio was once asked
wether he ever thinks about the penalty he missed.
his reply: "every single day."

in a sense it was maybe the most humiliating defeat
in boxing history. 90 seconds that changed ... a life.

I can't agree with any of that. He lost a fight.

ATG resume, easy to say.
I don't think it was humiliating.
20 or 30 million will change any life.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I can't agree with any of that. He lost a fight.

sure.

I would think Tyson would be far more humiliated about the ear incident & the McBride fight than Spinks would be.

As far as ratings, Spinks rates well ahead of Tyson from a career standpoint. That could be looked at as weird.

Of all the most intimidated or scared boxers that fought Tyson, I would say that it was Bruce Seldon. I know someone beat me to it in saying this, but this Seldon guy, did he really got hit? I don't think so. He got down by Iron Mike's reputation than anything else. I guess he figured why fighting Tysin if I know I am not gonna beat him? Might just as well stay down and let the ref count to ten.

Frank Bruno was INTIMIDATED. He tried that stare down tactic, but I know Tyson saw the fear inside of Bruno. And the great Michael Spinks knew that he was not going to win. He knew that it was his last payday and fight. He took the money and ran.

Of the ones not intimidated by Tyson were Buster Douglas and the great Evander Holyfield. They fought hard after the bell like saying to Tyson: "You want some more?"

Lennox Lewis INTIMIDATED Tyson. Tyson was done in when Lewis hit him I'm a press conference, giving Tyson fear and a cut above the eye

Of all the most intimidated or scared boxers that fought Tyson, I would say that it was Bruce Seldon. I know someone beat me to it in saying this, but this Seldon guy, did he really got hit? I don't think so. He got down by Iron Mike's reputation than anything else. I guess he figured why fighting Tysin if I know I am not gonna beat him? Might just as well stay down and let the ref count to ten.

Frank Bruno was INTIMIDATED. He tried that stare down tactic, but I know Tyson saw the fear inside of Bruno. And the great Michael Spinks knew that he was not going to win. He knew that it was his last payday and fight. He took the money and ran.

Of the ones not intimidated by Tyson were Buster Douglas and the great Evander Holyfield. They fought hard after the bell like saying to Tyson: "You want some more?"

Lennox Lewis INTIMIDATED Tyson. Tyson was done in when Lewis hit him I'm a press conference, giving Tyson fear and a cut above the eye

Lewis looked intimidated for the ring walk and the entire first round. When the ref warned him for holding in the second, he snapped out of it. Tyson didn't look intimidated at all, he just looked done.