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Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 04:57
by SaadOffTheDeck
Nope, I didn't realize that at all. Well played, you even painstakingly spelled out the joke to keep the knee slapper going. :TU:

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 05:08
by Syntax Error
Il Duce wrote:Riddick Bowe

Lost to Tony Tubbs in my view, and about 80% of the TV Viewers who called in.

Around those Table discussions on Friday Night, who talks about Riddick Bowe being a very good fighter.

No one.

Get me that Pia Zadora Album.......... :TU:

'Riddick Bowe Struggles Past Tony Tubbs, Decision Booed'

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 4ZNJcb64VQ
This is the first time I've ever heard this.

I haven't seen the fight in a long time, but when I watched it, I never came away thinking Tubbs was robbed.

I'm going to need to rewatch this bout.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 05:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
Syntax Error wrote:
Il Duce wrote:Riddick Bowe

Lost to Tony Tubbs in my view, and about 80% of the TV Viewers who called in.

Around those Table discussions on Friday Night, who talks about Riddick Bowe being a very good fighter.

No one.

Get me that Pia Zadora Album.......... :TU:

'Riddick Bowe Struggles Past Tony Tubbs, Decision Booed'

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 4ZNJcb64VQ
This is the first time I've ever heard this.

I haven't seen the fight in a long time, but when I watched it, I never came away thinking Tubbs was robbed.

I'm going to need to rewatch this bout.
Dempsey and Alp have been saying it for years. Your initial recollection is spot on. Nice effort from Tubbs, crystal clear win for Bowe.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 05:29
by Ezzard
He was a fantastic heavyweight…

But I can’t help but think that he profited from coming along when there was another great heavy (Holyfield) who he had a huge size advantage over.

He had a great jab…that he often just didn’t use…and he had great courage…

But he gave away one of the belts. Cheated the fans out of the Lewis fight, even though he had already agreed to the fight. And he was only 28 when Golota beat him up.

He seems like a good guy now…

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 05:41
by Syntax Error
Ezzard wrote:He was a fantastic heavyweight…

But I can’t help but think that he profited from coming along when there was another great heavy (Holyfield) who he had a huge size advantage over.

He had a great jab…that he often just didn’t use…and he had great courage…

But he gave away one of the belts. Cheated the fans out of the Lewis fight, even though he had already agreed to the fight. And he was only 28 when Golota beat him up.

He seems like a good guy now…
Agree with this, but he is such an enigma for me.

I saw him interviewed on Ringside last year & he was in complete denial about the ducking of the Lewis fight.

He actually tried to accuse Lewis of ducking HIM. :confused:

Like you say, he had great courage, but I will forever wonder why he didn't want to fight Lewis, when any other fighter would have been chomping at the bit to get in there & get some sort of revenge for the Olympic defeat.

I know Newman was controlling him, but that fight could easily have happened had Bowe insisted on it.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 06:13
by SaadOffTheDeck
I never understood the Lewis duck either, though I think he made 10 million fighting Dokes & Ferguson. So HBO could be partially to blame.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 08:34
by hhaehre
Il Duce wrote:Riddick Bowe
Lost to Tony Tubbs in my view, and about 80% of the TV Viewers who called in.
Bowe didn't loose that fight. Tubbs was old and fat but did better than expected and there you have the recipe for how a guy suddenly won the fight a decade after the fact. I had Tubbs winning only a couple of rounds but he was fairly competitive.

As for the legacy of Bowe, I find him a little overrated. He matched up well with Holyfield who played right into his strengths but he rarely looked special vs. anyone else with a pulse. He is in the bottom half of the top 30 at hw I guess.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 22:20
by Bobbyptsd
Il Duce wrote:Old and Fat Tony Tubbs, was the better man in the later Rounds.

This was the first sign of 'Dog' in Riddick Bowe.

I had Tony TNT' Tubbs the winner by 5-4-1, just like everybody else at Caesar's Casino.

Riddick loaded up on beating up smaller men or older guys with no punch.

Lennox Lewis would have destroyed him within 5 Rounds, and left him in trash-heap
at Center-Ring.

Remember when he used to come into the Ring with the 'Batman' get up.

'Batman Bowe'................'a friggin clown act'
You have trouble gettng 1 person on a goddamn message board to agree with your babble, and I'm supposed to believe that everyone of thousands of people at that event agreed with your exact, ridiculous score?

Not sure why I'm wasting my time. I used to think you just really hated Ali for some reason. I'm starting to realize you're just delusional about boxing and perception in general.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 03:49
by Giancarlo
Duchess, no one agrees with your constant shite.

Go back to Eastside.

Oh, hang on. They banned your lying racist arse didn't they?

:lol:

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 19:54
by Bobbyptsd
Il Duce wrote:You want a 'used' Batman outfit

Riddick Bowe, a grown man coming into the Ring wearing a Batman outfit.

Batman,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,give me a break !!!
Lay off the weed, nutjob.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 21:59
by Ambling Alp II
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
Il Duce wrote:Riddick Bowe

Lost to Tony Tubbs in my view, and about 80% of the TV Viewers who called in.

Around those Table discussions on Friday Night, who talks about Riddick Bowe being a very good fighter.

No one.

Get me that Pia Zadora Album.......... :TU:

'Riddick Bowe Struggles Past Tony Tubbs, Decision Booed'

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 4ZNJcb64VQ
This is the first time I've ever heard this.

I haven't seen the fight in a long time, but when I watched it, I never came away thinking Tubbs was robbed.

I'm going to need to rewatch this bout.
Dempsey and Alp have been saying it for years. Your initial recollection is spot on. Nice effort from Tubbs, crystal clear win for Bowe.
I have never said any such thing. Btw, I probably think more highly of Bowe than most people on this Forum.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 22:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
My bad, I must have mixed you up with someone else. Probably John L.

Re: Riddick Bowes legacy? ------

Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 15:43
by HeavyHitters
I'd probably put Bowe in the top 20 of all time, but given his talents and how he squandered alot of it by getting fat, and showing up to fights out of shape, puts him farther down the list than what he could have been. If Bowe would have stayed in shape for about 5 to 10 years, defending his crown 8 to 9 different times, would have garnered him a top 5 spot.

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