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Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 03:36
by fasteddie
100% NO

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 05:24
by Chambers2
No that's why Froch is trying to sell the bollox out of the fight with all this fake aggro business. Froch has fought the best in the world and none of them hjave wound him up, now all of a sudden Groves is supposed to have annoyed the shit out of him. Froch is my fave fighter of all time, but I've found this build up irritating at best

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 06:13
by dbf
Hopefully in the next 5 years we get in situation where streaming becomes to the TV what napster and illegal downloading did the music industry and things tip in balance of the consumer.

Could you imagine, free boxing live on youtube, and the promoter only making money from the live event?

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 06:18
by rossij8
Eddie has now announced Martin Murray on the bill (v TBC) due to his fight being called off in Aus

Twitter is full of people complementing the large card on the 23rd

Quality not quantity I reckon - though Murray being added is a welcome addition

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 06:25
by The_Don1
rossij8 wrote:Eddie has now announced Martin Murray on the bill (v TBC) due to his fight being called off in Aus

Twitter is full of people complementing the large card on the 23rd

Quality not quantity I reckon - though Murray being added is a welcome addition
it depends who you follow on twitter, my TL is full of people commenting on the poor quality of the undercard.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 10:30
by rossij8
The_Don1 wrote:
rossij8 wrote:Eddie has now announced Martin Murray on the bill (v TBC) due to his fight being called off in Aus

Twitter is full of people complementing the large card on the 23rd

Quality not quantity I reckon - though Murray being added is a welcome addition
it depends who you follow on twitter, my TL is full of people commenting on the poor quality of the undercard.
I see Buncey on Twitter has been backing it up as a PPV -he says the undercard is irrelevant for PPV

He also said all Froch's fights should be PPV

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 11:36
by David McAllister
expe wrote:100% no, the undercard is Gethin-Crolla, Fielding against some Guyanan and Quigg is defending against Diego Oscar Silva - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer, which is an absolute shocker of a defence, even Calzaghe usually fought against better than that.
I have to disagree mate, the kid has only been beat twice. Don't you remember Calzaghe vs Tocker Pudwill!!!! that was a joke defence!!!!

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 13:40
by expe
David McAllister wrote:
expe wrote:100% no, the undercard is Gethin-Crolla, Fielding against some Guyanan and Quigg is defending against Diego Oscar Silva - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer, which is an absolute shocker of a defence, even Calzaghe usually fought against better than that.
I have to disagree mate, the kid has only been beat twice. Don't you remember Calzaghe vs Tocker Pudwill!!!! that was a joke defence!!!!
Scroll down the page a bit further and see who he's fought. His last fight was against with a record of 22-7-1, has never beaten anyone decent, was knocked out in 65 seconds by Gamboa in his 5th fight and he couldn't beat him. This is just as bad as Pudwill.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 13:41
by Adamj1987
expe wrote:
David McAllister wrote:
expe wrote:100% no, the undercard is Gethin-Crolla, Fielding against some Guyanan and Quigg is defending against Diego Oscar Silva - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer, which is an absolute shocker of a defence, even Calzaghe usually fought against better than that.
I have to disagree mate, the kid has only been beat twice. Don't you remember Calzaghe vs Tocker Pudwill!!!! that was a joke defence!!!!
Scroll down the page a bit further and see who he's fought. His last fight was against with a record of 22-7-1, has never beaten anyone decent, was knocked out in 65 seconds by Gamboa in his 5th fight and he couldn't beat him. This is just as bad as Pudwill.
its to make quigg look good on a big event after his last fight

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 16:20
by palooka
Horse wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:But when you have Scott Quigg in a World title fight,
His opponent is ranked 85th in the world. The fight is absolute garbage.

Always like your direct and no nonsense manner :TU: Quigg is a good boxer and could deal with far better fighters in an exciting way.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 18:06
by Horse
palooka wrote:Always like your direct and no nonsense manner :TU: Quigg is a good boxer and could deal with far better fighters in an exciting way.
:TU:

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 18:28
by lefty
Anyone else noticed that Eddie always brings in these shitty south american opponents? I bet they're dirt cheap.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 18:57
by rio
Hearn said the only way froch v groves would be ppv would be with a mega undercard. When does the rest get announced then?

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 19:20
by expe
columbo wrote:Anyone else noticed that Eddie always brings in these shitty south american opponents? I bet they're dirt cheap.
Like Warren used to be with the Ghanaians, they'd be brought over with a reputation of being 'teak tough' and had nice looking records, but were quite frankly shite, the only difference is if the South Americans aren't unbeaten, they're likely to have been stopped, so instead they 'always come to win'.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 07:31
by Fergz16COTJ
It's the same Matchroom fighters we get to see every other week in complete mismatches on Sky Sports through our normal susbscription... only in this case Hearn has through more of them on, Quantity over Quality to 'sell' a PPV, just throwing more sh1t on the fire..the chief support fight is an absolute joke of a mismatch for a 'world title' defence but i suppose Quigg is coming off a majority draw and said he would only call himself a world champion in the ring..which he later backtracked on cos in his opinion, he 'won' the fight... so has to look good...Martin Murray falls into Hearn's lap and is put on this show but cant see his opponent at this short notice being up to much...

I wont be buying it, as intriguing a match-up Froch v Groves has the potential to be, conceivably Froch walks right through Groves and does a Lucian Bute on him...Hearn will be hoping for his sake this fight becomes as competitive as he hopes it to be..with of course his favourite fighter emerging victorious

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 11:55
by rossij8
Fergz16COTJ wrote:It's the same Matchroom fighters we get to see every other week in complete mismatches on Sky Sports through our normal susbscription... only in this case Hearn has through more of them on, Quantity over Quality to 'sell' a PPV, just throwing more sh1t on the fire..the chief support fight is an absolute joke of a mismatch for a 'world title' defence but i suppose Quigg is coming off a majority draw and said he would only call himself a world champion in the ring..which he later backtracked on cos in his opinion, he 'won' the fight... so has to look good...Martin Murray falls into Hearn's lap and is put on this show but cant see his opponent at this short notice being up to much...

I wont be buying it, as intriguing a match-up Froch v Groves has the potential to be, conceivably Froch walks right through Groves and does a Lucian Bute on him...Hearn will be hoping for his sake this fight becomes as competitive as he hopes it to be..with of course his favourite fighter emerging victorious
Nail on the head

Scott Quigg is defending a world title against a 85th in the world ranked fighter - how does that work?

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 12:29
by Fergz16COTJ
rossij8 wrote:
Fergz16COTJ wrote:It's the same Matchroom fighters we get to see every other week in complete mismatches on Sky Sports through our normal susbscription... only in this case Hearn has through more of them on, Quantity over Quality to 'sell' a PPV, just throwing more sh1t on the fire..the chief support fight is an absolute joke of a mismatch for a 'world title' defence but i suppose Quigg is coming off a majority draw and said he would only call himself a world champion in the ring..which he later backtracked on cos in his opinion, he 'won' the fight... so has to look good...Martin Murray falls into Hearn's lap and is put on this show but cant see his opponent at this short notice being up to much...

I wont be buying it, as intriguing a match-up Froch v Groves has the potential to be, conceivably Froch walks right through Groves and does a Lucian Bute on him...Hearn will be hoping for his sake this fight becomes as competitive as he hopes it to be..with of course his favourite fighter emerging victorious
Nail on the head

Scott Quigg is defending a world title against a 85th in the world ranked fighter - how does that work?
He's 86th now when i checked today :lol: - It's a voluntary 'defence' of a strap which he was awarded in the boardroom and subsequently failed to win in the ring against 86th ranked, number 3 Super-Bantam in Argentina, the bout is still subject to commission approval, but i am shocked this is deemed a suitable opponent for a 'world title'

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 14:23
by expe
Despite this being a shocker of a PPV show, Eddie has been retweeting numerous people who are saying it's the best show in ages, brilliant and all kinds of other bollocks, I genuinely wonder if these people possess any brain cells.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 14:31
by lefty
expe wrote:Despite this being a shocker of a PPV show, Eddie has been retweeting numerous people who are saying it's the best show in ages, brilliant and all kinds of other bollocks, I genuinely wonder if these people possess any brain cells.
:lol:

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 15:10
by jessi
IMO yes, it's one of our best super middles ever fighting the up and coming star, if it sells out in 11 minutes it's worthy of ppv

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 15:28
by expe
jessi wrote:IMO yes, it's one of our best super middles ever fighting the up and coming star, if it sells out in 11 minutes it's worthy of ppv
It didn't sell out in 11 minutes though. Thousands were kept back for the undercard fighters and Froch and Groves were given large allocations as well. Of those sold, most will have gone to touts, for 3£700 or so you can buy a program that repeatedly applies for and buys tickets.

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 10 Nov 2013, 06:01
by AdamThackray81
Hi! New to boxrec! Felt compelled to join as I think it's a fornicating disgrace that this is PPV! Complete smoke and mirrors from that smug grinning tosser Hearn! Long list of fighters ppl recognise so they think its a brilliant card, the reality will become apparent on the night when there sitting through boring none competitive fights!

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 10 Nov 2013, 08:18
by Final round
The poll results are looking pretty damning..

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 10 Nov 2013, 15:00
by jessi
Final round wrote:The poll results are looking pretty damning..
Yes true, but the question is out of the 78% of people who think it shouldn't be ppv how many will still buy it ?

Re: Is Froch vs Groves worthy of PPV

Posted: 10 Nov 2013, 15:09
by palooka
jessi wrote:
Final round wrote:The poll results are looking pretty damning..
Yes true, but the question is out of the 78% of people who think it shouldn't be ppv how many will still buy it ?
Most, like voting in an election really - it shouldn't be a PPV but will be a decent enough bout; I thought the PPV model was for the Rolls Royce type bouts.