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Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 08:28
by palooka
Mark Tibbs was being groomed for better things and Chris Saunders beat him and then a little while later beat Kevin Lueshing.
John Keeton beating Dean Francis was a good result and you could see how much it meant to 'Buster'.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 08:54
by Old bones Ian
Peter Eubank beat Barry McGuigan
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:16
by matko
josco wrote:For me one of the best performances of recent years was that of Geraint Harvey wiping the floor with widely touted and highly skilled prospect Tony Doherty. Don't think Tony ever fought again and Geraint only had one more fight - often wondered whether he might have been frozen out.
Geraint boxed a few more times after that win which was a big win Tony has highly rated by his gym mates
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:19
by matko
Chris W 1982 wrote:DougieCampbell wrote:I have always been impressed by Youseef Al Hamidi. Really good wee boxer. I saw him turn over Jason Hastie up here. Was a total shut out 60-54 I think it was.
Seen Al Hamidi look the part against Anthony Crolla on a Khan undercard a few years ago.
Terry Carruthers went through Trevor Crewe with ease on a Steve Wood show back in 2009. Awful snow that day but Carruthers was worth the hassle. Funnily enough, Al Hamidi fought on that bill. He lost to Stephen Jennings over 4
"Wrecking Crew" was highly touted and hlew away Geraint Harvey(think after this 1) terry was coming off a few years out if remember rightly kept stepping right and giving him angles
Snow was unreal and thought show would of fell apart but didn't as always best day of year

Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:23
by matko
n1ebf wrote:I saw Sam Webb get bashed up by a kid whose name I forget, but was from Wisbech. Been DQ'd a couple times I think. Webb had only had 5 fights himself mind you. Fans and banners everywhere. They wouldn't have been happy.
Ali Nuumbembe taking the C'wealth of Kevin Anderson. I beat the bookies that day, but you couldn't really call Ali a journeyman by any stretch. Unknown, yes, journeyman, no.
Thompson - Haye (again, maybe I'm getting journeyman and underdog mixed up).
Bradley Pryce - Ossie Duran.
Sam webb was beaten by Alex spitko opening a huge cut who was also early mentioned took willie bilan out think in 1 Rnd and also beat chris black on points in Scotland I'm sure
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:25
by matko
What about wild Alvin "slick" Miller he stopped Matthew legg in 2 think scored couple big wins legg former aba finalist I think and in prizefighter tonight
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:39
by JimJim2009
Buck Smith upsetting Kirkland Laing was a shocker. Really felt for Kirkland, it derailed his last realistic run at a world title.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 10:17
by stujones
Steve Little vs Michael Nunn
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 11:44
by TheWigwam
Emanuel Augustus vs Jon Thaxton
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 11:49
by palooka
Geoff McCreesh v Dingaan Thobela
Iran Barkley v Tommy Hearns 1
Stevie Cruz v Barry McGuigan
Jon Thaxton v Dean Hollington
Jon Thaxton v Paul Ryan
Karl Taylor v Dingaan Thobela
Karl Taylor drew Michael Ayres
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 15:40
by WelshJack
Bit of an injustice on him, but Tony Pace's win over Francis Luke Robinson.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 15:51
by stujones
The late Mervyn Bennetts win over unbeaten (at the time) prospect Gareth Jordan which was televised on ITV (in Wales).
Lee Swaby vs Enzo Maccarinelli?
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 19:05
by Matt Teague
Peter mcdonagh against Gomez, I feel mcdonagh is one of the best journeyman we have in uk
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 15 Nov 2013, 07:01
by jonp
palooka wrote:Geoff McCreesh v Dingaan Thobela
Iran Barkley v Tommy Hearns 1
Stevie Cruz v Barry McGuigan
Jon Thaxton v Dean Hollington
Jon Thaxton v Paul Ryan
Karl Taylor v Dingaan Thobela
Karl Taylor drew Michael Ayres
I think im not quite understanding the journymen catagory here
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 15 Nov 2013, 07:09
by orbtastic
Thaxton/Ryan was a huge upset at the time, although a few people had questioned Ryan's ability to take a solid whack on the chops.
Keeton/Oliver, saw that live.
Also on that card was the journeyman win of all wins surely?
Tony Booth beating Omar Sheika.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 15 Nov 2013, 08:25
by DaveyH
Ross Puritty KO 11 Wladimir Klitschko.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 15 Nov 2013, 09:47
by palooka
jonp wrote:palooka wrote:Geoff McCreesh v Dingaan Thobela
Iran Barkley v Tommy Hearns 1
Stevie Cruz v Barry McGuigan
Jon Thaxton v Dean Hollington
Jon Thaxton v Paul Ryan
Karl Taylor v Dingaan Thobela
Karl Taylor drew Michael Ayres
I think im not quite understanding the journymen catagory here

I know I pushed the boundary a little; Barkley had lost a handful and was not considered in Hearns' class, Cruz worked full time as a plumbers mate and trained after work and was seen as a very soft opponent, Thaxton had lost before and had no amateur boxing experience behind him and was boxing away from home v Hollington who had been a Repton amateur and was a big hitter, v Ryan he'd been bashed up by Colin Dunne previously and was moving up a division v a very big hitter and fast starter in Ryan; Taylor would box anyone and lost many, many fights on points and his draw v Ayres and the win v Thobela are brilliant results.
I do appreciate how Cruz, Thaxton and Barkley could be viewed as not being journeymen though

Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 15 Nov 2013, 09:59
by pyenest77
Couple of different angles here.
Journeyman was probably Buck Smith beating Kirkland Laing for me.
Slighly off the mark here, but I have seen so many Jorneyman (Laight, Allen, Razak) lose that Carl Allen winning at Bowlers the other week was a strange one although he deserved it.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 07:31
by Night-Nurse
Chris W 1982 wrote:DougieCampbell wrote:I have always been impressed by Youseef Al Hamidi. Really good wee boxer. I saw him turn over Jason Hastie up here. Was a total shut out 60-54 I think it was.
Seen Al Hamidi look the part against Anthony Crolla on a Khan undercard a few years ago.
Terry Carruthers went through Trevor Crewe with ease on a Steve Wood show back in 2009. Awful snow that day but Carruthers was worth the hassle. Funnily enough, Al Hamidi fought on that bill. He lost to Stephen Jennings over 4
hamidi then went on to drop simpson in an eight rounder in scotland,,,beat steve saville at home on 24 hours notice for a masters then on 8 hours notice fight british champ john murray and lose contraversially/closely over 8 rds,,,,
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 10:56
by josco
matko wrote:josco wrote:For me one of the best performances of recent years was that of Geraint Harvey wiping the floor with widely touted and highly skilled prospect Tony Doherty. Don't think Tony ever fought again and Geraint only had one more fight - often wondered whether he might have been frozen out.
Geraint boxed a few more times after that win which was a big win Tony has highly rated by his gym mates
Didn't know that - did he go white collar?
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 21:29
by matko
josco wrote:matko wrote:josco wrote:For me one of the best performances of recent years was that of Geraint Harvey wiping the floor with widely touted and highly skilled prospect Tony Doherty. Don't think Tony ever fought again and Geraint only had one more fight - often wondered whether he might have been frozen out.
Geraint boxed a few more times after that win which was a big win Tony has highly rated by his gym mates
Didn't know that - did he go white collar?
Sorry I actually said that without checking
I was actually last person to fight him but didn't think I boxed him straight after doc fight
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 22:51
by polecateddy
palooka wrote:Mark Tibbs was being groomed for better things and Chris Saunders beat him and then a little while later beat Kevin Lueshing.
John Keeton beating Dean Francis was a good result and you could see how much it meant to 'Buster'.
Err, the Keeton result was of a (allegedly) highly dodgy nature.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 22:55
by iamasadlittleboy
In recent years, Jaro v Wonjongkam, if that counts?
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 05:46
by metchampion
palooka wrote:Neil Swain was beating Paul Ingle up until he got hit with a very low blow, that was a bad decision.
Bernard Paul hadn't done great and had a spotty record when he knocked Jason Rowland out in 1 round.
Alex Spitko knocked out Willie Bilan in a couple of rounds - Bilan had never been hit that hard before - it was man v boy, I felt sorry for Willie.
Bernard wasn't a Journeyman... He was a champion.
Re: Best win/performance you've seen from a journeyman?
Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 06:44
by palooka
polecateddy wrote:palooka wrote:Mark Tibbs was being groomed for better things and Chris Saunders beat him and then a little while later beat Kevin Lueshing.
John Keeton beating Dean Francis was a good result and you could see how much it meant to 'Buster'.
Err, the Keeton result was of a (allegedly) highly dodgy nature.
It didn't look dodgy to me, Dean got clumped by a very heavy handed boxer in Buster; he was out of it, not play acting and Keeton went for it like his life depended on it.