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Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 20:27
by Giancarlo
Controversial wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:
I wonder who this mystery coward can be?
Maybe its one of the old timers like Dempsey who refused to fight black men?
Mmm, could well be be.

Didn't Jack also skip WW1?

And we know The Duchess has strong views on draft dodgers.

Anyway, all we know for certain is that not even a retarded fantasist would put Ali in the mix.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 20:35
by Controversial
Giancarlo wrote:
Didn't Jack also skip WW1?
So Dempsey refused to fight black men and was also a draft dodger. That sounds quite cowardly to me, must be him. Surely?

EDIT: Dempsey was a women beater too wasn't he?

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 20:35
by Giancarlo
Il Duce wrote:East Side Boxing

Full of 'Ali Garbage Pickers'

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Funny thing is, it's still too good for a lying racist twat like you.

That's why they banned you.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 20:37
by BoxBuzz
Glad you included your own badge of honor story within the parameter of "courageous"

You ol' Medi Vac pilot you! Thank you for your service! If indeed you ever witnessed such things.

On the other hand, even a half witted pseudo journalist with the "courage" of their convictions would be able to say these words. "I harbor some deep bias and resentment against this man for the following reasons:

And then simply list their reasons.

I know someone who flatly denies all bias when directly asked. Yet this same person offers up a veritable plethora of chronic comments and insinuations that appear to belie this. Surely anyone able to pass the "foggy mirror test" and capable of utilizing the "preponderance of evidence" measure.... would quickly ascertain this so called "reporter" or wanna be "journalist's" transparently duplicitous ways.

A person such as this, could be considered "lacking in courage".

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 20:43
by Giancarlo
Controversial wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:
Didn't Jack also skip WW1?
So Dempsey refused to fight black men and was also a draft dodger. That sounds quite cowardly to me, must be him. Surely?
Well it's only a guess but we know it couldn't possibly be Ali.

Of course, The Duchess may well be privy to top secret info that clears Jack. A bit like those city records he has on Denver that he can't post as he has to protect his source.

How about ex champ Kid McCoy who shot his wife dead? That's a pretty cowardly act. Could this be our secret coward?

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 13 Nov 2013, 22:23
by BoxBuzz
Il....may I call you ill?

Ok..just kidding about the "ill"

I can certainly be wrong. And it is within possibility that I am indeed wrong.....In which case, I

have treated you unkindly, and made rash and harsh assumptions.

Is this what has happened?

IF so...Surely you will have the capacity to recognize how I might have gotten the wrong impression.

and if you are wise and fair, you will of course forgive....and proceed with your sharing.

Once convinced of my error, I will attempt to atone for my over reaching statements. I would even

offer up an apology if the situation requires one.

Can you suggest for me, an appropriate remedial course of action?

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 00:29
by BoxBuzz
Il Duce wrote:Yes,

You must watch a Pia Zadora Concert........

Both Matinee and Evening Shows, and do a book report on sitting through 'Pain'.

I will of course consider this, as I do most of your contributions.

Harmless, fanciful banter.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 01:00
by bollox
BoxBuzz wrote:Il....may I call you ill?

Ok..just kidding about the "ill"

I can certainly be wrong. And it is within possibility that I am indeed wrong.....In which case, I

have treated you unkindly, and made rash and harsh assumptions.

Is this what has happened?

IF so...Surely you will have the capacity to recognize how I might have gotten the wrong impression.

and if you are wise and fair, you will of course forgive....and proceed with your sharing.

Once convinced of my error, I will attempt to atone for my over reaching statements. I would even

offer up an apology if the situation requires one.

Can you suggest for me, an appropriate remedial course of action?
Do you wear a cravat perchance? :lol:

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 02:11
by Robinson
Il Duce wrote:Cowards in Boxing

More than just 'fighting in the ring', as that takes courage, but not necessarily brains.

Not to say that intelligent men have not stepped into the Ring, as many were sharp minded.

But, does anyone come to mind as a 'coward', or behaved in a 'cowardly manner'.

A person who lacks courage when facing danger or difficulty, not neccessarly in the Boxing Ring,
but being fearful and/or acting cowardly because of avoiding a commitment, duty or honor.

A person who would show mental weakness, as being ineffectual 'milksop'.

I personally view a coward in a sport as being some one who continues to
fowl and break the rules while knowingly doing so while intentionally harming
their opponent outside the rules in place agreed upon by all parties,

To me this is cowardice.

Then again I view John L Sullivan rocking up to a fight drunk and then
not fighting as being both cowardly and arrogantly disrespectful.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 09:46
by ThatOne
Il Duce wrote:Mr. Robinson

Good analysis.

A fighter who intentionally fouls, with repeated 'illegal tactics' would be considered 'a coward'.

Muhammad Ali did use 'over' 213 holds, and '147' Fouls, and '51' illegal cuffs against Joe Frazier in
their 2nd-Bout.

Including an intentional attempt to thumb Joe in the eye, and a knee-to-the-groin.

I'll bet you gave a knee to the groin or two trying to defend yourself when the neighborhood girls were stealing your lunch money... In fact I bet you were even able to deter one or two.



:P

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 10:39
by fatcity69
Did Ilduchebag take a lot out of himself in the bathroom this morning?.... not enough judging by this thread!...

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 10:42
by Ezzard
I sit at a screen watching boxing...or typing about boxers and boxing...

I nominate myself.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 10:48
by fatcity69
Ezzard wrote:I sit at a screen watching boxing...or typing about boxers and boxing...

I nominate myself.

I think yure too harsh on yourself, some of us are born to write, some of us are born to fight... wanting to write about it rather than do it doesn't make you a coward. The real cowards are the people who sit behind a pc and denigrate certain fighters when they have never so much as spat in a bucket themselves. They know who they are.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 10:57
by ThatOne
fatcity69 wrote:
Ezzard wrote:I sit at a screen watching boxing...or typing about boxers and boxing...

I nominate myself.

I think yure too harsh on yourself, some of us are born to write, some of us are born to fight... wanting to write about it rather than do it doesn't make you a coward. The real cowards are the people who sit behind a pc and denigrate certain fighters when they have never so much as spat in a bucket themselves. They know who they are.
I think Il Manichino spat in a bucket or two but what he spat out is not what you think.

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 11:07
by BoxBuzz
bollox wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Il....may I call you ill?

Ok..just kidding about the "ill"

I can certainly be wrong. And it is within possibility that I am indeed wrong.....In which case, I

have treated you unkindly, and made rash and harsh assumptions.

Is this what has happened?

IF so...Surely you will have the capacity to recognize how I might have gotten the wrong impression.

and if you are wise and fair, you will of course forgive....and proceed with your sharing.

Once convinced of my error, I will attempt to atone for my over reaching statements. I would even

offer up an apology if the situation requires one.

Can you suggest for me, an appropriate remedial course of action?
Do you wear a cravat perchance? :lol:

Does not everyone?

Re: Cowards in Boxing

Posted: 14 Nov 2013, 11:29
by ThatOne
Il Duce wrote:That One and his 'oral fixation'

Not sure why he likes to talk about these things, instead of boxing.
Maybe because you bring out the 'best' in people.

Don't forget to mouthwash and brush afterward.

:oo