Haye v Fury Off

[Mimmy]

There has to be reasons and I do not buy the photo. I think Haye just hasn't the belly for it. Too long out and proberly slow in his work. Getting older by the day. Nope he just chicken chitted himself and needed a good cover story.

[CiganoBoxer]

he will duck Fury and i bet in a years time he will re surface with some comeback and more calendars

[Mimmy]

I have to go with BJS's Tweet

Some people booking hotels with money that's hard to get then you got a cock boy laying like his been killed in a bed like a gay!

[CiganoBoxer]

I dont think Haye ever really fancied the job in his heart of hearts

Why wouldn't he 'fancy the job' against a man he'd have flattened inside two rounds ?

Are u really that gullible ?

Work the math out whats the chances of getting injury twice with Hayes track record and it being legit ?? ...and on top of that your being told by people in the know that knew the score and even said when that cut happened that he will try and get out of this fight again ,yet you still think he had the belly for it ?

[mickey1975]

Fury is the victim here. He put his heart and soul into this fight. If they knew it was not going to happen, why not just say so? This has cost Fury at least eight months of his career and a lot of money. Peter seemed to be pretty sure it would never happen after the first pull out. Convinced even. Is it a coincidence?

[Mimmy]

Fury is the victim here. He put his heart and soul into this fight. If they knew it was not going to happen, why not just say so? This has cost Fury at least eight months of his career and a lot of money. Peter seemed to be pretty sure it would never happen after the first pull out. Convinced even. Is it a coincidence?

I agree with you mickey Haye has done this before and tbh yes we proberly knew this would not come off. When did he get an injury, and when did he see a consultant regarding the injury, when was surgery appointed????

Yes he has a ton of cash so proberly all of the above could have been done in a few days, but no story leaks and a photo today, why justify a photo to the public? Why not show a photo of the damaged shoulder? dsurely if you can post piccy's you can at least post one that stops any conspiracy????

[Mimmy]

Work the math out whats the chances of getting injury twice with Hayes track record and it being legit ?? ...and on top of that your being told by people in the know that knew the score and even said when that cut happened that he will try and get out of this fight again ,yet you still think he had the belly for it ?

It's a pretty rough sport professional boxing, the training is VERY hard and it takes a toll on the body, so the chances of injury are quite high. Haye had nothing to fear whatsoever from Fury it would have been one of the easiest fights of his career.

But . . . if "people in the know" say otherwise who am I to disagree ?

boxing is rough but in Haye's case training seems to be rougher, so best get out while you can to avoid any real injury

[Mimmy]

Why not show a photo of the damaged shoulder?

So if he'd posted a picture of his shoulder pre surgery, you would have been able to determine if the injury was genuine or not?

As I said in another post I'm currently on the waiting listing for Rotator Cuff surgery, my shoulder LOOKS perfectly normal (perhaps not to your 'expert' eyes) it took an Ultrasound scan from a suitable trained health professional to determine the degree of damage and the need for surgery.

Ive worked for the NHS for 23 years

[tony1234]

I wonder why nothing was mentioned before, you don't suddenly end up in hospital having surgery like that, I feel sorry for everyone who has spent their hard earned on tickets, hotels etc and now have to mess around getting refunded

[Mimmy]

Haye has pulled out of 3 fights, true.

Haye has cost the boxing public thousands of pounds, true.

Haye has cost other fighters money, true

Haye has cost Paul Potts a Feb billing in Manchester (not sure if true but sounds true)

[Mimmy]

boxing is rough but in Haye's case training seems to be rougher, so best get out while you can to avoid any real injury

Haye like Evander Holyfield came up from Cruiser, both of them do/did a lot of heavy weight lifting as well as regular boxing training to increase muscle mass, Holyfield had Rotator Cuff surgery to BOTH shoulders after his abysmal performance against Chris Byrd, now Haye has had Rotator Cuff surgery (allegedly)

It's probably more a 'weight lifting' rather than 'boxing training' injury.

Who's spin doctor are you?

[Horse]

Fury would have beat him with ease and made him look awful.

[Mimmy]

Ive worked for the NHS for 23 years

And in this '23 years' you've developed X Ray eyes ?

Thats not the point. Have all doctors developed x-ray eyes?

My points are you do not get an injury and get surgery straight off. you go through channels. Yes Haye most likely did go private but not a word leaked??? Come off it mate, stop dreaming.

[Mimmy]

Who's spin doctor are you?

Merely trying to offset all the bizarre 'conspiracy' theories that are littering this thread.

No you are not you are spinning. A new member today getting to the heart of a thread. Come off it.

[Finn]

Don't care what you say , most of us knew this was coming ...Haye knew what time it was .

only an idiot would think haye was scared to step in the ring with fury, fury had about a 20% chance of winning that fight. You guys need to face facts fury has not beaten a top contender yet and has struggled with mediocre ones. I hope im wrong but i think fury's going to be heading down the same path as Price shortly. The only difference is that he has heart.

[Mimmy]

Don't care what you say , most of us knew this was coming ...Haye knew what time it was .

only an idiot would think haye was scared to step in the ring with fury, fury had about a 20% chance of winning that fight. You guys need to face facts fury has not beaten a top contender yet and has struggled with mediocre ones. I hope im wrong but i think fury's going to be heading down the same path as Price shortly. The only difference is that he has heart.

I'm not a Fury fan by any means and would have gone along with you. But Haye has been inactive for ages and has seen something we haven't. Maybe more spin from the Fury camp I don't know but he didnt fancy the fight as there is most likely something better around the corner maybe next summer, I don't know but I would never buy another Haye ticket.

[Mimmy]

I'm not a Fury fan by any means and would have gone along with you. But Haye has been inactive for ages and has seen something we haven't. Maybe more spin from the Fury camp I don't know but he didnt fancy the fight as there is most likely something better around the corner maybe next summer, I don't know but I would never buy another Haye ticket.

Did someone say "spin" ?

someone said maybe spin, you know what camps are like.

[Horse]

only an idiot would think haye was scared to step in the ring with fury, fury had about a 20% chance of winning that fight. You guys need to face facts fury has not beaten a top contender yet and has struggled with mediocre ones. I hope im wrong but i think fury's going to be heading down the same path as Price shortly. The only difference is that he has heart.

Haye was scared to step in the ring with Fury.

Haye realised Fury was the real deal in the lead up to their fight and he knew he was likely to be destroyed by him.

[freddydoesdallas]

Ive worked for the NHS for 23 years

And in this '23 years' you've developed X Ray eyes ?

Thats not the point. Have all doctors developed x-ray eyes?

My points are you do not get an injury and get surgery straight off. you go through channels. Yes Haye most likely did go private but not a word leaked??? Come off it mate, stop dreaming.

My wife had surgery 2 days after going in with a knee injury on nhs so not really a surprise that haye went through quicker. Also, wasn't the surgery in Germany

[ALI]

Haye affraid of Fury??? A staged injury??? Its threads like this that highlight who the real forum idiots are. The same morons would probably tell you the moon landings were faked or that Elvis is alive and living in Roswell.

[Punchy Joe]

Is This a long standing injury? Did he know about it in advance of the first postponement or even before? Or did he suddenly rip a perfectly good shoulder during training and then rushed to surgery??

[Horse]

Haye affraid of Fury??? A staged injury??? Its threads like this that highlight who the real forum idiots are. The same morons would probably tell you the moon landings were faked or that Elvis is alive and living in Roswell.

How many times can Haye cry wolf before you stop believing him?

[Mimmy]

Haye affraid of Fury??? A staged injury??? Its threads like this that highlight who the real forum idiots are. The same morons would probably tell you the moon landings were faked or that Elvis is alive and living in Roswell.

I can see a reply saying I salute you sir!

[Finn]

Fury is the victim here. He put his heart and soul into this fight. If they knew it was not going to happen, why not just say so? This has cost Fury at least eight months of his career and a lot of money. Peter seemed to be pretty sure it would never happen after the first pull out. Convinced even. Is it a coincidence?

fury had his options he ducked price and chose not to fight pulev despite the fighting man talk he still looks at the risk v reward factor before facing someone. He's now got 2 months to train for a new opponent and the WBA belt is vacant he'll probably now be able to win a world title if he gets a favourable draw.

[lillywhite14]

Fury would have beat him with ease and made him look awful.

You are right, if Haye would have fought with the shoulder injury and been a shell of himself, he would have looked awful.

Haye could well be finished now. I suspect he has enough dough and interests to avoid risking his health by fighting when he is suffering with serious injury etc
Shame, but that's how it goes sometimes.

A fully fit Haye would decimate Fury, that's barely up for debate.

Its a shame for all involved, mostly for those who have shelled out their hard earned on two cancellations now. I feel for you chaps.

Fury should be able to get something done sharpish and get a fight lined up. Been training for a while now, will be in decent shape etc
Problem is, he might have to face a heavyweight now, which could mean him losing and not getting £5m for his troubles!