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Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 17:47
by thepocketrocket
Roach callls Garcia a piece of shit without provocation, makes a move towards Ariza, and then wonders why he gets kicked....

Ariza is a nob anyway, he was hardly gonna take the high ground.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 18:11
by reggaereggae
Boo hoo... Give a fornicate.... It's funny how making a so-called 'racist' comment is considered worse than physical violence, paedophilia etc.... Although actually only from white people obviously. Ethnic people can make any remark without rebuke (Hopkins, Tyson, De la Hoya (against blacks interestingly) Barrerra (against Arabs) etc etc)).

I would be nice if one could differentiate between names calling and genuine prejudice / hatred

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 05:44
by daviddee
Got to say I watched the larger video first and thought Roach started it. After watching the 2nd one you can clearly see the taunts start from Robert Garcia and Ariza. I can't believe they are mocking a guy with a disability. That's the lowest form of scum ever. And no Roach wasn't racist I only heard "you stupid Mexican" how is that racist?? If he thinks the guy is Stupid and I'm sure he is Mexican. Got to say I wanted Rios to win this fight initially now I want Manny to give them the beating they deserve.. Garcia and Rios laughing at the taunts. I will tell you one thing if that was my family or brothers fans I would of stopped that. I hope Ariza gets thrown out of boxing

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:21
by forcefraser
reggaereggae wrote:Boo hoo... Give a eff.... It's funny how making a so-called 'racist' comment is considered worse than physical violence, paedophilia etc.... Although actually only from white people obviously. Ethnic people can make any remark without rebuke (Hopkins, Tyson, De la Hoya (against blacks interestingly) Barrerra (against Arabs) etc etc)).

I would be nice if one could differentiate between names calling and genuine prejudice / hatred

Hopkins is the biggest racist in boxing. He makes no secret of it either.

"I`ll never lose to a white boy". Could you imagine the uproar if Calzaghe had said "I`ll never lose to a black boy". Apples and pears, same rules do not apply.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:39
by Old bones Ian
So is stating where someones from racist?
I've been called an 'English prick' before, and just took it as an insult but not a racial slur.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:40
by SNG
Old bones Ian wrote:So is stating where someones from racist?
I've been called an 'English prick' before, and just took it as an insult but not a racial slur.
It isn't racist but using someone's nationality as an insult is certainly bigoted. This was a pathetic bit of nonsense though, grown men acting like teenagers. Embarrassing.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:50
by danconnollyeire
daviddee wrote:Got to say I watched the larger video first and thought Roach started it. After watching the 2nd one you can clearly see the taunts start from Robert Garcia and Ariza. I can't believe they are mocking a guy with a disability. That's the lowest form of scum ever. And no Roach wasn't racist I only heard "you stupid Mexican" how is that racist?? If he thinks the guy is Stupid and I'm sure he is Mexican. Got to say I wanted Rios to win this fight initially now I want Manny to give them the beating they deserve.. Garcia and Rios laughing at the taunts. I will tell you one thing if that was my family or brothers fans I would of stopped that. I hope Ariza gets thrown out of boxing
It's not! It's a fact! :OhYes: :OhYes:

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:51
by danconnollyeire
SNG wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:So is stating where someones from racist?
I've been called an 'English prick' before, and just took it as an insult but not a racial slur.
It isn't racist but using someone's nationality as an insult is certainly bigoted. This was a pathetic bit of nonsense though, grown men acting like teenagers. Embarrassing.
I get called Pogue-Dan by my mates all the time! :DD

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 07:52
by MightyWarrior
Freddie is obviously pissed off as he's seen that video of Garcia and his fellow dick heads imitating him - so for Garcia to act the innocent party is misleading.

Freddie took too many punches as a fighter, so for Garcia and co to mock him is really low life stuff.

And Ariza is obviously a scum bag. Kicks him then starts to mock his speech - too many steroids I guess.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 08:11
by stevedoc
columbo wrote:
The_Don1 wrote:Roach was goading them, he came across as the biggest twat of all in that.
Not as bad as Ariza kicking and old man with parkinson's and mocking him for the illness.
agreed

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 08:24
by bigB
Think its been massively gone out of hand this situation.

Yes Freddie started this but the way Seckbach has gone about it Freddie is the leader of the KKK. Yes he insulted Garcia and yes after being kicked he called someone a mexican mofo. But assault on a person with a disability and then mocking that IMO is equally as bad.

Will be keeping an eye out for the final bits and weigh in to see if it all kicks off again.

Good weekend of boxing

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 08:26
by lefty
bigB wrote:Think its been massively gone out of hand this situation.

Yes Freddie started this but the way Seckbach has gone about it Freddie is the leader of the KKK. Yes he insulted Garcia and yes after being kicked he called someone a mexican mofo. But assault on a person with a disability and then mocking that IMO is equally as bad.

Will be keeping an eye out for the final bits and weigh in to see if it all kicks off again.

Good weekend of boxing
Yeah nice bit of needle going into both of these fights! Got to love it :OhYes:

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 13:28
by Old bones Ian
danconnollyeire wrote:
SNG wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:So is stating where someones from racist?
I've been called an 'English prick' before, and just took it as an insult but not a racial slur.
It isn't racist but using someone's nationality as an insult is certainly bigoted. This was a pathetic bit of nonsense though, grown men acting like teenagers. Embarrassing.
I get called Pogue-Dan by my mates all the time! :DD
I've got a video at home about Shane McGowan, a film crew are following him and they show 2 lads go up to Shane and ask for his autograph, Shane picks up a beer mat and signs it for them.
When the film crew speak to the 2 lads they show the card, and on it is written 'F*ck off you Brit c*nts', Shane'

They thought it was brilliant, and it is funny.

Re: Roach called Racist by team rios as it kicks off..

Posted: 22 Nov 2013, 12:55
by jimcook
as i saw it , they all turned on roach like a pack of wolves. scumbags. i will never watch any of that sechbacks videos now either, cos he just tried to inflame the situation .