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Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:10
by Syntax Error
MightyWarrior wrote:No one wanted to see Groves DeGale 2 : the first fight wasn't exactly box office.
Everyone wants to see Froch/Groves 2. - BIG difference
and Carl will be laughed out of town if uses hurt feelings as an excuse.
100% correct.
I have no desire to watch Groves -v- Degale 2; I've had my fill of Degale calling Groves 'Ugly Kid' & acting like a complete arse, whereas Froch -v- Groves 2 is the fight I most want to see next.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:12
by vargas
G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
Froch gained the vast majority of his fans by being honest, decent and fighting the hardest fights available to him. He is obviously going to lose a fair few in doing the exact opposite.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:24
by Final round
G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
Firstly Gomez you run a forum don't you so get squeezing.
Secondly the ref got booed for the stoppage and ruining the end of a barnstorming fight , George got cheered as the underdog who did far better than Team Froch ever expected him to do and Carl got booed for the lack of generosity shown post fight an attitude that he continuing with even after all the flack he's got.
Like you say though he couldn't care less what anybody thinks as long as they pay their hard earned money to see him fight and you know his character well.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:29
by keithmoonhangover
Final round wrote:G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
Firstly Gomez you run a forum don't you so get squeezing.
Secondly the ref got booed for the stoppage and ruining the end of a barnstorming fight , George got cheered as the underdog who did far better than Team Froch ever expected him to do and Carl got booed for the lack of generosity shown post fight an attitude that he continuing with even after all the flack he's got.
Like you say though he couldn't care less what anybody thinks as long as they pay their hard earned money to see him fight and you know his character well.
Some of the crowd booed Carl before he spoke.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:46
by Syntax Error
Carl Froch seems to be becoming very sensitive in his old (for boxing) age.
I don't get how so called abuse would make a warrior like Carl Froch shy away from having a rematch with a fighter who had given him his toughest fight in years.
Why would he worry about such things?
He's a fighter's fighter who always takes on the best & while he won the fight, he surely knows that the stoppage is tinged with controversy & a man of his ilk would surely want to have a rematch to emphatically beat Groves & put the first fight's ending to bed?
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 16:50
by stevieb_8006
jesus this is relentless now, u'd think Froch was a kiddie fiddler all the grief hes getting
I cant believe any would dispute hes a warrior
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:09
by mickey1975
G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
That's because they aren't true Froch fans. Where were they in the early days? They are casuals who have jumped on the bandwagon and will quickly jump off. To be honest, a lot of lads on my fb page who have watched him from the start and were there the other night are sticking by him. He did nothing wrong the other night but really rubs people up the wrong way.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:09
by Jack B
Froch has been arrogant, disrespectful and hypocritical throughout this event and I have completely turned against him as a result. This interview has, somehow, made him even more unlikeable!
All this talk that it was 'inevitable' that he would have stopped Groves is utter nonsense. He had him stunned yes, but it was a disgracefully early stoppage, simple as that.
What Carl needs to understand is that the fans are what drives the fights and that all the British fans want a Groves rematch. So he can forget about Ward, which is completely unrealistic, and make a decision. Rematch or retirement.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:09
by ALI
G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
If you cant handle the heat get out the fcuking kitchen.
The idea you came on here to float around is nothing more than an escape route, it stinks. If Froch (who is obviosuly your brother or close friend) is so confident he was in control of the fight from the 7th onwards, that he had Groves out on his feet in the 9th and only needed 10 more seconds to totally wipe him out, he'd jump at the chance of a rematch to set the record straight.
Froch, yourself, and his whole team are giving out all the wrong signals. None of you are doing yourselves any favours.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:12
by lefty
mickey1975 wrote:G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
That's because they aren't true Froch fans. Where were they in the early days? They are casuals who have jumped on the bandwagon and will quickly jump off. To be honest, a lot of lads on my fb page who have watched him from the start and were there the other night are sticking by him. He did nothing wrong the other night but really rubs people up the wrong way.
I've been an "admirer" of his since the relatively early days. Before the Pascal fight. I think you have to admire a guy who's fought that level of comp consistently even if it was forced upon somewhat.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:13
by ALI
mickey1975 wrote:G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
That's because they aren't true Froch fans. Where were they in the early days? They are casuals who have jumped on the bandwagon and will quickly jump off. To be honest, a lot of lads on my fb page who have watched him from the start and were there the other night are sticking by him. He did nothing wrong the other night but really rubs people up the wrong way.
Hmmm, so if one is honest and objective in their opinion, in your small mind they are not a true Froch fan?
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:14
by lefty
ALI wrote:G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
If you cant handle the heat get out the fcuking kitchen.
The idea you came on here to float around is nothing more than an escape route, it stinks. If Froch (who is obviosuly your brother or close friend) is so confident he was in control of the fight from the 7th onwards, that he had Groves out on his feet in the 9th and only needed 10 more seconds to totally wipe him out, he'd jump at the chance of a rematch to set the record straight.
Froch, yourself, and his whole team are giving out all the wrong signals. None of you are doing yourselves any favours.
It's Michael Gomez.......
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:15
by ajwesty13
I cant remember a decision that has had such an affect.. even with friends who are best big fight fans were shocked by the decision.... for me Froch knew he got out jail and he doesnt fancy having his face used as more target practice and it appears to me he is looking for any excuse not to give a rematch.. I think about what ricky burns when he said that he wants to give beltram a rematch because of the flack that he got from friends and people in general, just unfortunate that he got pressured by the IBF to fight Crawford...
The ref already robbed us of good fight and more than likely we will be robbed by froch not wanting a rematch.. warrior..... no.... not really!!!!
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:17
by mickey1975
ALI wrote:mickey1975 wrote:G0mez wrote:"Alienating his fans".... Are those the same fickle people that boo'ed George into the ring, then Boo'ed Froch out if it for doing his job and forcing the stoppage ?
The sort of people that are a bit sad and post 1'000's of abusive posts in a single calendar month on little forums , because they are spotty little nerds with neither a wife or life ?
I don't think he will be overly concerned which side they are cheering as long as they buy a ticket or the PPV.
That's because they aren't true Froch fans. Where were they in the early days? They are casuals who have jumped on the bandwagon and will quickly jump off. To be honest, a lot of lads on my fb page who have watched him from the start and were there the other night are sticking by him. He did nothing wrong the other night but really rubs people up the wrong way.
Hmmm, so if one is honest and objective in their opinion, in your small mind they are not a true Froch fan?
What are you picking on me for, dickhead? I have probably been the most critical of Froch on here for years and GOmez will confirm that. I'm stating facts. They were fickle, I was sat in the middle of them. I bet the fans who used to go to the York Hall to watch him didn't cheer Groves out of the ring.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:19
by lefty
Everyone is slating everyone on here tonight! It's like a free for all

Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:20
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:Everyone is slating everyone on here tonight! It's like a free for all

Yeah, up yours Columbo.

Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:21
by lefty
keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:Everyone is slating everyone on here tonight! It's like a free for all

Yeah, up yours Columbo.

fornicate you, you hillbilly bastard!
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Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:21
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:Everyone is slating everyone on here tonight! It's like a free for all

Yeah, up yours Columbo.

eff you, you hillbilly bastard!
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Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:22
by lefty
columbo wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:Everyone is slating everyone on here tonight! It's like a free for all

Yeah, up yours Columbo.

eff you, you hillbilly bastard!
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Ps your missus is fit

Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:26
by keithmoonhangover
columbo wrote:Ps your missus is fit


Thanks mate.

Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:34
by ajwesty13
keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:Ps your missus is fit


Thanks mate.

if you 2 keep this up i wont give you the rematch yeah
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Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:37
by lefty
ajwesty13 wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:columbo wrote:Ps your missus is fit


Thanks mate.

if you 2 keep this up i wont give you the rematch yeah
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I'm not sure what's going on here.... You done something to me and Keith when we were unawares?

Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:40
by ajwesty13
columbo wrote:ajwesty13 wrote:
if you 2 keep this up i wont give you the rematch yeah
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I'm not sure what's going on here.... You done something to me and Keith when we were unawares?

i didnt want to come and break up to early.... i know the flack that has gone on this forum when that happens ;;-)
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Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:40
by mickey1975
The rematch has to happen. What better way to go than silencing the doubters? That would have to be it though. Ward would be madness. To beat Groves, his first real rival, in a super fight would be the icing on the cake for him.
Re: Froch abuse pushing rematch further away
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 17:43
by Monte Fisto
I'm actually not sure they need each other in a rematch? Froch can retire a winner and legend in the ring, Groves can move forward hard done by, massive momentum from the support he has generated - he will likely be a world champ with or without Froch.
i'm not fussed about a rematch, we all have our opinions but the bottom line is we have 2 tremendous British Fighters. One on way out, One on way in. Let the good times roll for both men at this phase of their careers and lives.