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Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 17:55
by palooka
Teddy's Toupee wrote:
palooka wrote:
Spud wrote:I prefer to remember Ricky as a fantastic servant to british boxing.

His private life is exactly that, if Ricky needs help then its up to those who he is close to, to sort it.

Leave the bloke alone.
Well said, if someone started to expose our private lives non of us would have any friends.
My lips are sealed, palooka.
Touche Toupee

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 17:59
by Lightsoot
Yes, let's all leave Ricky be, he deserves it. It's none of our business, and shame on those who ever shelled out loads supporting his rise to fame, US dream and ill-faited comeback last November. Have some respect, for goodness sakes.

And whatever you do, DO NOT, and I mean DO NOT, ever question Hatton's reputation in this game, particularly with regards to the Mayweather tickets demand.

http://www.secondsout.com/uk-boxing-new ... and-boxing

Since when did our fondness for a FIGHTER take away our liberty to debate their apparent failings as a PERSON on this forum, or any other?

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:06
by Spud
F*ck me let the rucks begin Carey ... let them f*cking rucks begin ...

I am going to bide my time you ****

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:10
by Lightsoot
Spud wrote:F*ck me let the rucks begin Carey ... let them f*cking rucks begin ...

I am going to bide my time you ****
You know as well as I do that he isn't, and never was, the people's champion. He had some cracking booze-ups though. I question anyone's dignity who can not speak to their parents and brother for a prolonged period of time, or apparently milk his loyal legion of supporters who hung rigidly to his coat tails for years.

Had he fought Witter we could have been spared all this because Junior WOULD have stood him on his head, despite what the Hatton fraud police and the Showtime execs that never were might have said. Seriously.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:11
by palooka
If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:13
by Spud
Ben Carey wrote:
Spud wrote:F*ck me let the rucks begin Carey ... let them f*cking rucks begin ...

I am going to bide my time you ****
You know as well as I do that he isn't, and never was, the people's champion. He had some cracking booze-ups though. I question anyone's dignity who can not speak to their parents and brother for a prolonged period of time, or apparently milk his loyal legion of supporters who hung rigidly to his coat tails for years.

Had he fought Witter we could have been spared all this because Junior WOULD have stood him on his head, despite what the Hatton fraud police and the Showtime execs that never were might have said. Seriously.
:yay: :yay: :yay:

I so want to rick with you Carey .... but you know if I start arguing ref Witter/Hatton stating Hatton would have won you will expose me because I always stated Junior would have won.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:14
by Lightsoot
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
Do you want to have a read of Thomas Hauser's article, Palooka, copied above and entertain me after that?

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:15
by lefty
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:17
by palooka
Ben Carey wrote:
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
Do you want to have a read of Thomas Hauser's article, Palooka, copied above and entertain me after that?



You've lost me there Ben, over my head; I've to go to bed, work in the morning but if there's something good to read please post a link and I'll read it when I get in tomorrow and my wife watches Doctors (I'm allowed on the computer then).

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:18
by palooka
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I meant to go to Vegas not to the local bouts :OhYes:

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:19
by Lightsoot
Spud wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:
Spud wrote:F*ck me let the rucks begin Carey ... let them f*cking rucks begin ...

I am going to bide my time you ****
You know as well as I do that he isn't, and never was, the people's champion. He had some cracking booze-ups though. I question anyone's dignity who can not speak to their parents and brother for a prolonged period of time, or apparently milk his loyal legion of supporters who hung rigidly to his coat tails for years.

Had he fought Witter we could have been spared all this because Junior WOULD have stood him on his head, despite what the Hatton fraud police and the Showtime execs that never were might have said. Seriously.
:yay: :yay: :yay:

I so want to rick with you Carey .... but you know if I start arguing ref Witter/Hatton stating Hatton would have won you will expose me because I always stated Junior would have won.
The Hatton-Witter argument is subjective pal, but the notion that Hatton is an all-round good bloke, man of the people, is squeaky clean, absolutely isn't. Hatton's stack seems bomb proof to some people on here which is rather irritating.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:20
by lefty
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I meant to go to Vegas not to the local bouts :OhYes:
Well the tickets were pricey! lol

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:22
by Lightsoot
palooka wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
Do you want to have a read of Thomas Hauser's article, Palooka, copied above and entertain me after that?



You've lost me there Ben, over my head; I've to go to bed, work in the morning but if there's something good to read please post a link and I'll read it when I get in tomorrow and my wife watches Doctors (I'm allowed on the computer then).
Happy weekend Palooka, have a read if and when you get chance, would welcome your take. Thanks.

http://www.secondsout.com/uk-boxing-new ... and-boxing

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:22
by palooka
People borrowed against their homes to go to Vegas and have a break and watch the fights; there aren't that many ordinary people with 3 or 4 grand in the bank for a weeks break no matter what gets talked about on the betting thread.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:26
by lefty
palooka wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:
palooka wrote:If Hatton has problems then it adds to his success as a fighter, he did it all when fighting himself; he did very well and did it in a way that people wanted to watch; he was lucky that people could borrow against their homes to watch him but Hatton hasn't conned anyone. He did his level best and there will not be anyone with the same pull for another 10 or 15 years + he could fight, he was very good at his best.
Do you want to have a read of Thomas Hauser's article, Palooka, copied above and entertain me after that?



You've lost me there Ben, over my head; I've to go to bed, work in the morning but if there's something good to read please post a link and I'll read it when I get in tomorrow and my wife watches Doctors (I'm allowed on the computer then).
Happy weekend Palooka, have a read if and when you get chance, would welcome your take. Thanks.

http://www.secondsout.com/uk-boxing-new ... and-boxing[/quote]

Sounds like Eddie Hearn tactics....

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:29
by Wales
How much involvement do you think Ricky will have had, directly, with ticket sales? Also, hardly a rarity fleecing your fans -- we all remember the Calzaghe Hopkins ticket sale stories where joe charged a guy in his gym extra because "everyone on ebay is doing it so why shouldn't i"

As for witter argument, it can go on and on but, regardless of opinion, junior never beat anyone of the calibre Ricky did, and never performed to the level Ricky did. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:31
by banjo
High level sportsmen tend to be highly strung individuals so it's no surprise their lives can end up chaotic during or following their careers.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:32
by Wales
banjo wrote:High level sportsmen tend to be highly strung individuals so it's no surprise their lives can end up chaotic during or following their careers.
Exactly

Carpet fitters son from Hyde in "having few drinks" shocker

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:40
by Lightsoot
Wales wrote:How much involvement do you think Ricky will have had, directly, with ticket sales? Also, hardly a rarity fleecing your fans -- we all remember the Calzaghe Hopkins ticket sale stories where joe charged a guy in his gym extra because "everyone on ebay is doing it so why shouldn't i"

As for witter argument, it can go on and on but, regardless of opinion, junior never beat anyone of the calibre Ricky did, and never performed to the level Ricky did. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Hatton was always hands-on during his career, particularly when it came to pound notes.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:42
by Wales
Ben Carey wrote:
Wales wrote:How much involvement do you think Ricky will have had, directly, with ticket sales? Also, hardly a rarity fleecing your fans -- we all remember the Calzaghe Hopkins ticket sale stories where joe charged a guy in his gym extra because "everyone on ebay is doing it so why shouldn't i"

As for witter argument, it can go on and on but, regardless of opinion, junior never beat anyone of the calibre Ricky did, and never performed to the level Ricky did. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Hatton was always hands-on during his career, particularly when it came to pound notes.
Clearly not as hands on as he thought he was otherwise he would've known where billy Graham's money really was

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:48
by Lightsoot
Wales wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:
Wales wrote:How much involvement do you think Ricky will have had, directly, with ticket sales? Also, hardly a rarity fleecing your fans -- we all remember the Calzaghe Hopkins ticket sale stories where joe charged a guy in his gym extra because "everyone on ebay is doing it so why shouldn't i"

As for witter argument, it can go on and on but, regardless of opinion, junior never beat anyone of the calibre Ricky did, and never performed to the level Ricky did. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Hatton was always hands-on during his career, particularly when it came to pound notes.
Clearly not as hands on as he thought he was otherwise he would've known where billy Graham's money really was
There's a recurring theme here, Sam. Hatton's long-term relationships with his parents, brother and trainer have evaporated.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:56
by mickey1975
I was at a function with Hatton four weeks ago, he looked fine, spoke well and only had a couple of pints. He was on Sky a few hours later in Hull at Towers-Browne.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 18:59
by Wales
For all his faults I can't envisage him as the master puppeteer, as much as he may have perceived he was.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 19:02
by mickey1975
Speak tried to charge a pal of mine a tenner for Ricky to sign his photo, my pal told him he was taking the p!ss and Ricky laughed and signed it.

Re: Hatton back on the drink

Posted: 01 Dec 2013, 21:02
by veriton
hang on a minute. so he goes and watches the boxing, gets rat arsed and then kips at his mates house? what's the big deal????