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Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:22
by Horse
hurlock wrote:Silly comment horse.

Many on here would put you in arizas bracket ha!
Freddie was being an aggressive divy.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:14
by lefty
Not sure what's going on here but this looks a bit dodgy it has to be said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrkbgVwoh8

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:33
by Monte Fisto
columbo wrote:Not sure what's going on here but this looks a bit dodgy it has to be said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrkbgVwoh8
its really hard to see if he swallows or inhales or neither. Leave it perverts

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:35
by lefty
95gerog wrote:
columbo wrote:Not sure what's going on here but this looks a bit dodgy it has to be said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffrkbgVwoh8
its really hard to see if he swallows or inhales or neither. Leave it perverts
It definietly looks like Ariza puts something in the napkin though.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:39
by crusader
Hard to prove anything meaningful from that.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:41
by lefty
crusader wrote:Hard to prove anything meaningful from that.
I have a feeling might look at it though. Even if you cant prove anything, I have a feeling this might turn into a bit of a scandal.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:43
by Monte Fisto
he does still gum shield in. so don't think he swallows anything

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:43
by JamieM
I don't want broner to have excuses but I do want people who are associated woth drigs to be tested and if there team have previous then test them every fight. I would rate him a strong
Fighter not a puncher. A puncher for me is someone who changes a fight with that 1 punch knockout. He usually stops people with accumulation of shots. Derry Matthews domestically
Is a prime example. World level golvkin, Stevenson and kovalev. Maybe
Wrong but but I see two differently.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:52
by Monte Fisto
maidana is a hurtful puncher, and he hit broner a lot from the word go. there was nothing abnormal with this fight with regards to their previous outings. at least that's my view.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:52
by Final round
Hurlock was right with smelling salts I think.
Banned in the state of Texas.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:18
by mickey1975
Freddie Roach said Broner was chinny a while back. He said he had seen him badly hurt in sparring.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:22
by Final round
mickey1975 wrote:Freddie Roach said Broner was chinny a while back. He said he had seen him badly hurt in sparring.
He got hit hard flush many times, I wouldn't say he was chinny.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:55
by JamieM
I dont think hes chinny at all. Its boxing and they are gonna take shots and at that level the way he took shots with no guard just does not cut it. He will rematch straight away and beat him for me unless something comes of the video

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 21:04
by DMA1987
hurlock wrote:Alex ariza should be banned from boxing imo
:TU:

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 21:50
by Mezonez
Somebody saying its meth...gives you a rush of energy..makes you feel like superman

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 10:01
by hurlock
Final round wrote:Hurlock was right with smelling salts I think.
Banned in the state of Texas.
I think your only allowed water in clear bottles & vas in the corners with adrenalin.

All substances are banned from the corner.they used to use white cement on cuts up until the 80's in the u.s

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 13:21
by palooka
JamieM wrote:Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?

Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised
Hope you were drunk when you wrote that :wink:

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 15:23
by JamieM
As I have said at that level I would say hurting someone with an accumulation on punches and being a puncher is different. A puncher is someone who makes an impact with one shot at its game
Over either they are out or they don't recover fr a count. Maidana is a tough man who out wills other fighters and for me isn't a puncher:)

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 15:36
by Final round
JamieM wrote:As I have said at that level I would say hurting someone with an accumulation on punches and being a puncher is different. A puncher is someone who makes an impact with one shot at its game
Over either they are out or they don't recover fr a count. Maidana is a tough man who out wills other fighters and for me isn't a puncher:)
He's a 'puncher' .

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 15:36
by Final round
palooka wrote:
JamieM wrote:Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?

Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised
Hope you were drunk when you wrote that :wink:
I thought I was drunk when I read it.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 15:40
by Yes We Can
JamieM wrote:As I have said at that level I would say hurting someone with an accumulation on punches and being a puncher is different. A puncher is someone who makes an impact with one shot at its game
Over either they are out or they don't recover fr a count. Maidana is a tough man who out wills other fighters and for me isn't a puncher:)
He's not a Highlight reel Kayo artist, but he's certainly a puncher. He doesn't have the speed of foot or hand or the general reflexes to get the spectacular knockouts against the guys around his weightclass, the fact he stuns these men repeatedly is because he has huge clubbing power on his punches.

Definitely a puncher.

As is boxing skills continue to improve under Garcia, his KO's will to.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 15:40
by palooka
Final round wrote:
palooka wrote:
JamieM wrote:Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?

Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised
Hope you were drunk when you wrote that :wink:
I thought I was drunk when I read it.
:OhYes:

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 07:32
by jago9139
JamieM wrote:Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?

Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised

Lets not Forget that Ariza was Khan's strength and conditioning coach when he fought Maidana, and Khan has been put down by lighter punches since, any coincidence ?

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 08:40
by youngrell
31 KO's in 35 wins says puncher to me.

Re: Drug Test Maidana??

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 08:46
by orbtastic
That brutal assault by Maidana in the 10th (I think it was) had him all over the shop, he looked a little punched out and ragged so it's possible he could have stopped him had he done it sooner. I'd have had no problem had the referee stepped in and stopped it. At one point Khan was just on the ropes with his ear muffs on.

He looked a tiny bit fleshy on Saturday, it could just have been the tight waistband on the shorts but it wouldn't massively surprise me if he tests positive for some form of diuretic.