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Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:12
by The_Don1
Lightsoot wrote:heavyweight title fight and any challenger worth his salt is going to want enough notice to prepare properly.
don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie[/quote]
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?[/quote]
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:17
by Lightsoot
The_Don1 wrote:Lightsoot wrote:heavyweight title fight and any challenger worth his salt is going to want enough notice to prepare properly.
don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?[/quote]
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:26
by The_Don1
Lightsoot wrote:The_Don1 wrote:Lightsoot wrote:heavyweight title fight and any challenger worth his salt is going to want enough notice to prepare properly.
don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.[/quote]
you brought dating sites up baby, if you've got a thai bride I'm not one to discriminate. I'm supporting British boxing on here, leave the hate for twitter.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:31
by Lightsoot
don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie[/quote]
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?[/quote]
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.[/quote]
you brought dating sites up baby, if you've got a thai bride I'm not one to discriminate. I'm supporting British boxing on here, leave the hate for twitter.[/quote]
LOL. You crack me up. Jim's owned you on this thread and rather than accept he's on the money, you prefer to round on those who disagree. Which part of his original post do you think is unfair?
As for Thai brides, I wouldn't know either, Don. Now, who's bringing up what?

Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:34
by The_Don1
Lightsoot wrote:don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?[/quote]
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.[/quote]
you brought dating sites up baby, if you've got a thai bride I'm not one to discriminate. I'm supporting British boxing on here, leave the hate for twitter.[/quote]
LOL. You crack me up. Jim's owned you on this thread and rather than accept he's on the money, you prefer to round on those who disagree. Which part of his original post do you think is unfair?
As for Thai brides, I wouldn't know either, Don. Now, who's bringing up what?

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I'd said my piece on the original thread already, you're continuing this for no reason and thus exposing your insecurities
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:38
by Lightsoot
The_Don1 wrote:Lightsoot wrote:don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off[/quote]
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.[/quote]
you brought dating sites up baby, if you've got a thai bride I'm not one to discriminate. I'm supporting British boxing on here, leave the hate for twitter.[/quote]
LOL. You crack me up. Jim's owned you on this thread and rather than accept he's on the money, you prefer to round on those who disagree. Which part of his original post do you think is unfair?
As for Thai brides, I wouldn't know either, Don. Now, who's bringing up what?

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I'd said my piece on the original thread already, you're continuing this for no reason and thus exposing your insecurities[/quote]
My insecurities

. Love it. Your 'piece' is unravelling though which you seemingly refuse to admit. I'll touch base with you in a few weeks time and let's review things then. I'll get some sense out of you, eventually. It's my new year's resolution.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:46
by JimJim2009
I'd said my piece on the original thread already, you're continuing this for no reason and thus exposing your insecurities[/quote
I want to see how the land lays when the Copperbox show comes round in mid-Feb. I figure it will be absolutely nothing like what was announced. Perhaps time will prove me wrong though.
If the promoters announced U2, Coldplay, the Rolling Stones and Showaddywaddy for Glastonbury, and on the night the best you get is Showaddywaddy, you might feel short-changed.
I fear there'll be several changes of opponent for Chisora before a last minute sub pops up for an inter-continental title bout, and I'd be surprised if we actually do get Saunders defending both the British and Commonwealth titles. There is a select few challengers for that fight when you eliminate those contenders with other fights lined up, fighters in other camps, or fighters with their own long term career development underway (eg, Eubank jnr).
I hope Copperbox 3 is akin to U2, Coldplay and the Rolling Stones, and doesn't turn out to be a Showaddwaddy, Black Lace and Bad Manners sort of thing

Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 16:50
by The_Don1
Lightsoot wrote:The_Don1 wrote:Lightsoot wrote:don't buy a ticket then, while you're at it go suck off eddie and his side chick kuggie
But Jim's right though, isn't he? Maybe you're frustrated because you can't gobble?
you'd love to suck off james helder just to pee kuggie off
LOL. Who are they, seriously? You sound really frustrated, Don? Match.com and Eharmony are doing New Year specials. Get yourself signed-up and spare us a post or two on here, eh? There's a good lad.[/quote]
just googled them, wow dating sites you must have fully experienced them, any success?[/quote]
Never tried them, Don. But they exist, right? Everyone's heard of them. The problem with you, apart from needing to empty your sack, is that your oblivious to anyone else's view which might contradict your own due to your tired, boring misconceptions.[/quote]
you brought dating sites up baby, if you've got a thai bride I'm not one to discriminate. I'm supporting British boxing on here, leave the hate for twitter.[/quote]
LOL. You crack me up. Jim's owned you on this thread and rather than accept he's on the money, you prefer to round on those who disagree. Which part of his original post do you think is unfair?
As for Thai brides, I wouldn't know either, Don. Now, who's bringing up what?

[/quote]
I'd said my piece on the original thread already, you're continuing this for no reason and thus exposing your insecurities[/quote]
My insecurities

. Love it. Your 'piece' is unravelling though which you seemingly refuse to admit. I'll touch base with you in a few weeks time and let's review things then. I'll get some sense out of you, eventually. It's my new year's resolution.[/quote]
Your new years resolution? along with quitting smoking, booze and the prostitutes, yes looking forward to it
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 17:02
by Black Sam Bellamy
I'd be more interested in this thread if JimJim2009 didn't slag off Warren on every single thread possible. You've clearly got an agenda Jim. Sykes v Walsh was on the York Hall bill but it's been moved to the Copperbox. Dont really see the big deal, there'll be tickets available on fight week, if you dont like how the card is shaping up, dont buy a ticket. I went to the first one and it was a good night of boxing. The second one didnt warrant the expense so it got swerved. Everyone has a choice.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 17:07
by The_Don1
Black Sam Bellamy wrote:I'd be more interested in this thread if JimJim2009 didn't slag off Warren on every single thread possible. You've clearly got an agenda Jim. Sykes v Walsh was on the York Hall bill but it's been moved to the Copperbox. Dont really see the big deal, there'll be tickets available on fight week, if you dont like how the card is shaping up, dont buy a ticket. I went to the first one and it was a good night of boxing. The second one didnt warrant the expense so it got swerved. Everyone has a choice.
Well said

Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 17:39
by JimJim2009
Ouch !
Not really an agenda, more an interest in this particular sort of thing. I've said lots of times I hope the promoter and his channel survives and prospers. I do find the practice itself fascinating - announcing a show without having made the main fights, then struggling to get good opponents for the house fighters, and so on. It strikes me as a poor way to treat the fans, especially if you consider the practice against other sports or other walks of life. What is billed at the outset is often not what you get on the night, and generally speaking that's not good for business. As a business model it seems to be the case that more importance is placed upon the hundreds of tickets shifted by the several popular undercard fighters on the bill, which may add up to several thousand, rather than for example putting in the promotional graft needed to sign, seal and deliver (for example) Chisora vs Wilder, and selling your show around that mouth watering main event. In other words, building the show from the top down, rather than from the bottom up.
I'd slag off any promoter doing it, it is the practice I frown on, if Eddie was doing it I'd be critical of him.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 18:20
by The Insider
JimJim2009 wrote:Ouch !
Not really an agenda, more an interest in this particular sort of thing. I've said lots of times I hope the promoter and his channel survives and prospers. I do find the practice itself fascinating - announcing a show without having made the main fights, then struggling to get good opponents for the house fighters, and so on. It strikes me as a poor way to treat the fans, especially if you consider the practice against other sports or other walks of life. What is billed at the outset is often not what you get on the night, and generally speaking that's not good for business. As a business model it seems to be the case that more importance is placed upon the hundreds of tickets shifted by the several popular undercard fighters on the bill, which may add up to several thousand, rather than for example putting in the promotional graft needed to sign, seal and deliver (for example) Chisora vs Wilder, and selling your show around that mouth watering main event. In other words, building the show from the top down, rather than from the bottom up.
I'd slag off any promoter doing it, it is the practice I frown on, if Eddie was doing it I'd be critical of him.
Valid post. Seems an arse about way of putting a show on. Book venue and date, wheel out the usual suspects and scramble around for opponents for them. Can't really blame FW for doing it though if people are effectively buying their tickets blind. Must be a comfortable position to be in having fighters who's fan base will buy tickets to watch their respective fighter regardless of their opponent.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 20:50
by hurlock
I think he struck a good deal with the hire of the copperbox I don't know why frank don't try & appeal to the family's & get child price tickets or just make the tickets cheaper & market his shows a little better & I'm sure he will do well.
I'm not that keen on his sons they are not very charasmatic & don't grab me in the slightest when they throw out khans name for Gavin & degale for bjs it shows they are really clutching at straws & are being unrealistic & the boy who cried wolf springs to mind
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 22:44
by WelshJack
Certainly the last time i'll even consider going to see Clev outside of Wales again.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 07:47
by jackukmma
As if people just suggest to buy tickets the week of the fight and think that's fine. People have arrangements to make. Travel, Transport, maybe time of work, maybe babysitter is needed. It's a horrible way of going about things just booking a date and hoping for the best
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 09:52
by ILikeBeer
columbo wrote:Not sure I buy that last part. Obviously if you put on a poo card though, it's not going to sell.
Of course that's the case.
Eddie can say what he likes, but if you live near the venue or can commute to it and they put on a decent fight, what does the fact that it's in London have to do with it?
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 04:28
by earsjohn
Billy Joe Saunders has pulled out with a hand injury.
Nathan Cleverly is definitely out too.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 04:34
by The Insider
earsjohn wrote:Billy Joe Saunders has pulled out with a hand injury.
Nathan Cleverly is definitely out too.
Falling.
Apart.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 04:57
by mickey1975
The Insider wrote:earsjohn wrote:Billy Joe Saunders has pulled out with a hand injury.
Nathan Cleverly is definitely out too.
Falling.
Apart.
As long as Buglioni and Keane are ok, that's the main!
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 05:26
by Jakemilo
Walsh v Sykes off now too Walsh injured
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 06:26
by JimJim2009
If these recent updates are correct, then the decent thing for the promoter to do is scrap this show. Of all the fights stated at the outset, only Delboy's remains, and the opponent is a million miles away from the "name opponent" talked about when this show was launched. Rudenko is garbage, I've watched him on youtube and he is inept. He has done nothing to earn a European title fight and his record is built on total nobodies. Anyway, there is a month to go until the show and I expect Rudenko will not be the opponent on the night.
In any other walk of life, the show would be cancelled. I know this one won't in a million years, even if they have to put Buglioni in the main event.
If this sort of thing is allowed, I might as well print my posters now for Mayweather vs Pacquiao to be staged at the local town hall in May. The fans won't get that on the night but so what, it doesn't seem to matter anymore ?
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 07:47
by Jakemilo
It's true about Sykes v Walsh pal his trainer told me this morning lads been training since September for British and tbh been constantly messed about
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 07:51
by JimStone
Jakemilo wrote:...and tbh been constantly messed about
I don't know about this specific case but I've seen it happen and it's arguably the worst bit of the whole business. There are some lads who well and truly get the piss taken out of them, some realise, some don't, either way it's not on.
Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 08:16
by bripez
Jakemilo wrote:It's true about Sykes v Walsh pal his trainer told me this morning lads been training since September for British and tbh been constantly messed about
Poor Frank, he just can't get a break.
As others have said, as long as Buglioni and Keane are on (and they will be) then he won't be @rsed.
Bring on the (WBO) European Title fights

Re: Watching the next Copperbox show fall apart
Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 08:57
by mullenman
the show just got big
Team Fury on Board,
looks like a good match for both parties involved