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columbo wrote:Fair enough. Well i've added a brief description relating to what the link is about anyway.

That's better.

The thread title's still rubbish though. That should be your comment about the article, not the title.

He's resigned?

Final round wrote:He's resigned?

No, he re-signed.

Final round wrote:He's resigned?

My bad lol

columbo wrote:

Final round wrote:He's resigned?

My bad lol

DD

Then I think he's done the right thing.

Horse wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:I think we'd all agree that Frankie has more natural talent than Khan so why is he still treading water?

Khan's more naturally talented in my opinion.

Frankie has a brain and a defence, that makes him instantly better than Khan, who has fast hands and can throw lots of punches without thinking what he's doing, plus he has a glass jaw.

expe wrote:

Horse wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:I think we'd all agree that Frankie has more natural talent than Khan so why is he still treading water?

Khan's more naturally talented in my opinion.

Frankie has a brain and a defence, that makes him instantly better than Khan, who has fast hands and can throw lots of punches without thinking what he's doing, plus he has a glass jaw.

You may be right and Frankie would do well to do half of what Khan has managed and Khan is younger than Gavin.

expe wrote:Frankie has a brain and a defence, that makes him instantly better than Khan,

No, it doesn't.

expe wrote:who has fast hands and can throw lots of punches without thinking what he's doing, plus he has a glass jaw.

Gavin's struggled against Woodhouse and Witter. He's not shown that he's even close to as able as Khan is yet.

expe wrote:

Horse wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:I think we'd all agree that Frankie has more natural talent than Khan so why is he still treading water?

Khan's more naturally talented in my opinion.

Frankie has a brain and a defence, that makes him instantly better than Khan, who has fast hands and can throw lots of punches without thinking what he's doing, plus he has a glass jaw.

You may be right and Frankie would do well to do half of what Khan has managed and Khan is younger than Gavin.[/quote]

It's a strange one. Khan is clearly athletically very gifted and superior to Frankie in that regard although saying that, Frankie's not exactly slow himself. I also think that Frankie is more of a thinker in the ring like Expe says. Khan's sheer speed though really does help him.

I think it's a good move for Frankie and Mr W, I'm sure 2014/15 is going to prove this, Frankie performs better when the opposition is better and it's just a matter of time now !

Horse wrote:

expe wrote:Frankie has a brain and a defence, that makes him instantly better than Khan,

No, it doesn't.

expe wrote:who has fast hands and can throw lots of punches without thinking what he's doing, plus he has a glass jaw.

Gavin's struggled against Woodhouse and Witter. He's not shown that he's even close to as able as Khan is yet.

Struggled against Witter??? Shows what you fornicating know, the first 3 or 4 rounds were close because Witter's so bloody awkward and after that he coasted to victory without a problem. As for struggling against Curtis, it's well known the situation he was in with major issues in his life outside boxing and even in his training, yet even with Curtis at his best and Gavin at his worst he still won the fight. Khan has no boxing brain and no defence, if he can't overwhelm the opponent with his speed he's lost. What about Khan getting flattened by Prescott, troubled by a shot Michael Gomez, on the floor against Willie Limond, on the floor against Peterson before being beaten on points, taken out by Garcia, all over the place against Maidana and on the floor against Diaz?

You're making excuses for Gavins poor showings and holding up Khans faults as though he is nothing; both are excellent boxers - I believe they sparred as amateurs extensively; Frankie Gavin has never said anything derogatory about Khan and vice versa. Khan has operated in far higher class than Frankie and Khan will most likely have retired a very wealthy young man before Frankie faces anyone even as good as Prescott, never mind Garcia.

palooka wrote:You're making excuses for Gavins poor showings and holding up Khans faults as though he is nothing; both are excellent boxers - I believe they sparred as amateurs extensively; Frankie Gavin has never said anything derogatory about Khan and vice versa. Khan has operated in far higher class than Frankie and Khan will most likely have retired a very wealthy young man before Frankie faces anyone even as good as Prescott, never mind Garcia.

I prefer Frankie's style but you're right.

expe wrote:Struggled against Witter??? Shows what you effing know, the first 3 or 4 rounds were close because Witter's so bloody awkward and after that he coasted to victory without a problem.

Gavin lost the first 4 rounds and looked rubbish. Witter won 5 rounds on my card, Gavin did not coast to an easy victory.

expe wrote:Khan has no boxing brain and no defence, if he can't overwhelm the opponent with his speed he's lost. What about Khan getting flattened by Prescott, troubled by a shot Michael Gomez, on the floor against Willie Limond, on the floor against Peterson before being beaten on points, taken out by Garcia, all over the place against Maidana and on the floor against Diaz?

What about him being a former unified world champion with several world class wins?

Gavin's not shown anywhere near what Khan has as a pro. Would you pick Gavin to beat Khan?

Columbo you dunno!!

hurlock wrote:Columbo you dunno!!

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columbo wrote:

hurlock wrote:Columbo you dunno!!

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Accrington Stanley!

Horse wrote:

expe wrote:Struggled against Witter??? Shows what you effing know, the first 3 or 4 rounds were close because Witter's so bloody awkward and after that he coasted to victory without a problem.

Gavin lost the first 4 rounds and looked rubbish. Witter won 5 rounds on my card, Gavin did not coast to an easy victory.

expe wrote:Khan has no boxing brain and no defence, if he can't overwhelm the opponent with his speed he's lost. What about Khan getting flattened by Prescott, troubled by a shot Michael Gomez, on the floor against Willie Limond, on the floor against Peterson before being beaten on points, taken out by Garcia, all over the place against Maidana and on the floor against Diaz?

What about him being a former unified world champion with several world class wins?

Gavin's not shown anywhere near what Khan has as a pro. Would you pick Gavin to beat Khan?

Witter spent most of the fight doing nothing, but you still found 5 rounds to give to him. I've lost my scorecard from the fight and I have no intention of watching it again because it was fornicating dull, but after the first 3 or 4 rounds it was a comfortable win, I think I had it something like 118-111. Khan has performed brilliantly at times, but for every good performance there's another where he's looked vulnerable or been beaten and you can't deny that he has a glass jaw.

I agree Khan has fought and won at a higher level, but I'd still pick Frankie to knock him out late on and I think Brook would do him earlier, partly because Khan's done, his chin's gone or was never there and even the better aspect of his game didn't look brilliant last time out, that combined with a long layout before an impending knockout by Floyd Mayweather will more or less end him, plus he will struggle with top counter punchers like Frankie, Kell and Floyd, because he won't land as often and when he takes punches back they will be clean and he will walk right onto them.