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Il Duce wrote:I think you're selling Duane Bobick short.

His strength and slow, but steady style would be problems 'galore' for an old Muhammad Ali.

1976 Muhammad isn't stopping Duane that's for sure..........

Granted, I've seen Ali's later fights with opponents like Richard Dunne and he looked like complete dog shit against them--- yet, when the occasion called for it like with Shavers or Norton he could take them into deep waters, steal rounds, and ultimately decisions. Big, strong Bobick (I'm guessing) would have possibly won the first four-five, and then the tide would begin to turn. Once that 7th or 8th round would come about, Bobick would start to tire--- he'd be thinking to himself "I stopped Wepner, I stopped Holmes and Stevenson in the amateurs, and I can't stop this old man." Ali would allow Bobick to punch himself out, and somewhere in the 10th-12th rounds Ali would start to pour it on Bobick. Bobick, game as he would be, would manage to make it into the 15th round--- but behind on all cards. Say by a score of 9-5-2 maybe. Maybe I am wrong in my prediction, for all I know maybe even at that stage Ali could of pulled out a surprise kayo--- but judging by history, Dunne was Ali's last kayo victim and maybe there would be no surprises. But fifteen rounds is a long ways to go with a man with a granite chin, whose also a master of psychology and with plenty of reserves--- even at that stage of the game Ali was hard to hit clean to the face. Could Duane of gone power punch for power punch for fifteen rounds? I dont think so. Same problem that Cooney had--- not enough experience in the deep waters.

Il Duce wrote:Duane Bobick

His problem was never stamina or endurance. And he would have never went 'all-out' against Muhammad Ali.

Just plodding slow and steady with wide swings.

That's because the majority of the men he faced got blown out quickly, or were tough, slow movers like himself--- Bobick never went twelve-fifteen rounds before. I think before even being considered for Ali in any sense, Bobick only went ten rounds once or twice. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think that's the case--- when you got a target in front of you, like Ali during those rope a dope years, I can see Bobick getting carried away and restless after a while after doing the same mistake everyone else made by pounding on Ali while he's blocking shots with his arms.

If there was a game plan to beating Ali, it was "plodding slow and steady with wide swings" as Duce put it.

I mean, don't you guys remember all the fighters who beat Ali that way?

Your right, I'm clearly the crazy one here.

Duce, I can only assume you are an intentional troll. Because if not, you are an absolute joke of a human being.

Il Duce wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Duane Bobick

His problem was never stamina or endurance. And he would have never went 'all-out' against Muhammad Ali.

Just plodding slow and steady with wide swings.

That's because the majority of the men he faced got blown out quickly, or were tough, slow movers like himself--- Bobick never went twelve-fifteen rounds before. I think before even being considered for Ali in any sense, Bobick only went ten rounds once or twice. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think that's the case--- when you got a target in front of you, like Ali during those rope a dope years, I can see Bobick getting carried away and restless after a while after doing the same mistake everyone else made by pounding on Ali while he's blocking shots with his arms.

Do you mean like Alfredo Evangelista

Who had never gone more than 8-Rounds ever,,,,,,,,,, before facing the Great Muhammad Ali.

Duane never got carried away, he was always slow.

Watch Duane in this fight, and you'll see,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Here's the thing, though, a few short months later Ali was going the distance with Earnie Shavers and beat him. Also, not long after he had fought Ken Norton (a fight I thought Ali lost btw) and it was very competitive. Both of those guys were several levels higher than Duane Bobick, and Norton proved that. If Shavers couldn't knock Ali out, or win a decision over Ali, and he was slow and had stamina issues and a soft chin (look at his record, Shavers was kayoed by guys like Ron Stander, etc) then there's no way Duane is kayoing Ali or winning a decision over Ali--- do I think it would of made for a good fight? Yes. But Duane isnt winning it.