John Inverdale

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 10 May 2004, 06:15

ever noticed how nealy just never ever ever stops talking during the bout?? compare that if u can to the old harry carpenter commentaries he let the boxing talk only adding bits where it mattered.

By the way what happened to Hagler commentating?? they should pull out the stops and get the marvellous one back. he told it exactly like it was. remember how critical he was of audley at times instead of this sychophantic crap we get now??

ahhh i think i just answered my question!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 10 May 2004, 06:25

I always have the sound down until I see the boxers being introduced in the ring - it's the only solution!

No getting away from Jim "Beam" Neilly, but I have absolutely no interest in listening to inverdale and his cronies.
Bunce talks bollocks and Woodhall just toes the line ( most of the time ).

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 10 May 2004, 07:59

To be fair, Duke said several times throughout that Audley needed to pick up the pace and be more impressive.

don't call it a comeback · Post by **don't call it a comeback** » 10 May 2004, 09:06

Oh yes....Inverdale is one smug rugger bugger totally in love with himself oblivious to the contempt and ridicule in which he is viewed by the rest of us.

Neilly....well its just unfortunate. He's obviously an old pro. And he tries hard. And I suppose he has some kind of boxing knowledge.

Its just he's usually wrong about things, not a very accurate commentator and reduces the buzz of a big fight to the excitement level of the commonwealth games twelve bore shooting reparcharge.

I can't explain Duke....he's a little ball of madness left over by visiting aliens.

Without a doubt Richie is a nice bloke but also without a doubt, definitely, he's pretty weak as a commentator.

Bunce? He's the bloke who corners you in a pub while others look on sympathetically. I can feel the saliva and pork scratching aroma bursting through the screen. You always feel the nightime is just a preparation for his mid morning recovery eggandbacon sandwich with guys like that. But by far, by a country mile, by a buncian metaphor, by a million hawaian shirts and a trillion beanie hats, is he the best of this afermentioned sorry bunch.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 May 2004, 09:08

don't call it a comeback wrote:Bunce? He's the bloke who corners you in a pub while others look on sympathetically

Beautiful.

DOG · Post by **DOG** » 10 May 2004, 09:12

Bunce? He's the bloke who corners you in a pub while others look on sympathetically. I can feel the saliva and pork scratching aroma bursting through the screen. You always feel the nightime is just a preparation for his mid morning recovery eggandbacon sandwich with guys like that. But by far, by a country mile, by a buncian metaphor, by a million hawaian shirts and a trillion beanie hats, is he the best of this afermentioned sorry bunch

Agree with that.
I get the feeling Bunce is trying to wake the rest of them up.
Surely some of his enthusiasm can rub off.

And Inverdale?...At least he shows up, but he should stick to Tennis and rugby.
But if he goes missing please don't bring that lump who presented it before him. That bloke and Clare Spalding just made me cringe with embarrassment.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 10 May 2004, 09:32

At least he's better than Jim Rosenthal. Rose the Nose used to ruin boxing for me.

No serious boxing journalist is going to look to the BBC boxing coverage to be the sole outlet of his creative juices, so anchormen are always going to be generalists. In that respect, his brief is evidently to 'educate' as many of us simpletons as possible as to why the world would stop turning without Big Audley. That said, he could do a little more research.

I don't give a rat's ass that he wears jeans. And laconic is his style. I've actually played rugby against him and he's a nice guy (but a crap player), but same style of talking to anyone as he presents. In that respect, he's a nice foil to Bunce, who I don't really warm to as I feel he's going hyper to try and make himself into a personality. I can see him doing the Bush Tucker Challenge with Bob Carolgees in a year's time...

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 10 May 2004, 09:36

Get Motty in. If nothing else, the man is meticulous in his preparation and research. Plus, he's a legend.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 10 May 2004, 10:04

mickeybeard wrote:Get Motty in. If nothing else, the man is meticulous in his preparation and research. Plus, he's a legend.

Yes he's a legend but some of his pronunciations are a bit off - Just wait for the European Championships. It would be William Yoppy all over again.

DOG · Post by **DOG** » 10 May 2004, 10:09

I can hear him now.

"A great left from Calzagheeeeee
Pudwill doesn't know what day of the week it is...he he he"

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 10 May 2004, 13:13

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:To be fair, Duke said several times throughout that Audley needed to pick up the pace and be more impressive.

to be even fairer Stevie Wonder could have pointed that out!... stevie> > > > 8)

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 10 May 2004, 13:36

Steve: let's get it right john.
Richie: Oh, absolutely jim.
Jim: well that was one of if not the best performance certainly in a British ring from Harrison of the Audley variety but he'll need more of the same. This is certainly one of the best fights since Antonio Vargas battled Willy Yoppy in Texas.
Steve: I saw Sam bash up Audley in Texas. THAT fight is THE fight that needs to be made. Let's get it on John Trouble is, Vargas wants 2 mill, Yoppy wants 2 mill, that fight with Howard Eastman WILLbe made. This time next year we'll be seeing Audley KO Vitali cold in Vegas. Lets get it on!
John: People are questioning Audley, when is he going to fight someone his size?
Richie: Oh, absolutely jim. Great stuff.
Hazel Irvine: Well, I've been drafted in now, so, what did you think Claire.
Claire Balding: Oh, wonderful pedigree. He's a throughbred of a fighter. The ring is going good to square, this should favour Harrison. Over to Sue Barker at ringside.
Duke: WHOOOAHAH, HARRISON'S GOT HIM! ARGHHHHHHHH! THIS KID'S GOT THE WIN IN THE BIN! WWWWWHHHHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!! HIS EYE IS HANGING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see where this will go? Hazel Irvine will be presenting the boxing before the year is out, with Claire Balding as the sole pundit. Yui wouldn't put it past the stupid/pc/trying to promote gender equality/BBC.

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 10 May 2004, 13:54

Riddick Blowe wrote:

You see where this will go? Hazel Irvine will be presenting the boxing before the year is out

oi oi oi oi i will not have a word against hazel she has been brightening up scottish sports broadcasting for a number of years with her " attributes".. well 2 attributes actually!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 10 May 2004, 14:12

neil r wrote:By the way what happened to Hagler commentating?? they should pull out the stops and get the marvellous one back. he told it exactly like it was. remember how critical he was of audley at times instead of this sychophantic crap we get now??

ahhh i think i just answered my question!

I also remember Nigel Benn being on the BBC and telling it like it is about Audley Harrison.

I don't think hes been asked back since either.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 May 2004, 18:58

Riddick Blowe wrote:Steve: let's get it right john.
Richie: Oh, absolutely jim.
Jim: well that was one of if not the best performance certainly in a British ring from Harrison of the Audley variety but he'll need more of the same. This is certainly one of the best fights since Antonio Vargas battled Willy Yoppy in Texas.
Steve: I saw Sam bash up Audley in Texas. THAT fight is THE fight that needs to be made. Let's get it on John Trouble is, Vargas wants 2 mill, Yoppy wants 2 mill, that fight with Howard Eastman WILLbe made. This time next year we'll be seeing Audley KO Vitali cold in Vegas. Lets get it on!
John: People are questioning Audley, when is he going to fight someone his size?
Richie: Oh, absolutely jim. Great stuff.
Hazel Irvine: Well, I've been drafted in now, so, what did you think Claire.
Claire Balding: Oh, wonderful pedigree. He's a throughbred of a fighter. The ring is going good to square, this should favour Harrison. Over to Sue Barker at ringside.

Brilliant

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 11 May 2004, 05:39

KOJOE90 wrote:
neil r wrote:By the way what happened to Hagler commentating?? they should pull out the stops and get the marvellous one back. he told it exactly like it was. remember how critical he was of audley at times instead of this sychophantic crap we get now??

ahhh i think i just answered my question!
I also remember Nigel Benn being on the BBC and telling it like it is about Audley Harrison.

I don't think hes been asked back since either.

I think Benn said something like, "I preferred boxing when it was on ITV" too.

Legend.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2004, 08:13

Why don't they swap McKenzie and Woodhall around, or maybe better still do what we have in the Rubgy on BBC Wales, Jonathon Davies is the co-commentator and the main analyst. He runs around all the time, he is the best talker in Rugby, like Richie is with the boxing, so why not use him all the time.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 11 May 2004, 08:45

They need to make John Rawling the permanent commentator. Bung Richie in with John. Then, have Mike Costello regularly doing the interviews, he's crap but much better than Richardson. On the presenting front I'm stumped, but I think Ronald MacIntosh would be better than John Inverdale? Big Ron hasn't looked great in that role (too ugly) but he has a 'safe' approach which is boring but, well, safe. Then, bring back Claude Abrams. I'll never forgive him for saying Danny Williams did well to get up from the knockdowns against Samil Sam 'Those were knockout punches' but he's better than the loud idiot Bunce. Then, put Duke in the 'loud pundit' role just because there is noone else and at least he's funnier than Steve...

Looks bleak.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 08:46

stujones wrote:Why don't they swap McKenzie and Woodhall around

I think I prefer to listen to McKenzie calling every fighter "kid" than Woodhall saying repeatedly "He's got to keep it looong".

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 08:48

Actually why don't they just make Steve Bunce THE no.1 commentator. Now that would be fun.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2004, 08:51

Riddick Blowe wrote:They need to make John Rawling the permanent commentator. Bung Richie in with John. Then, have Mike Costello regularly doing the interviews, he's crap but much better than Richardson. On the presenting front I'm stumped, but I think Ronald MacIntosh would be better than John Inverdale? Big Ron hasn't looked great in that role (too ugly) but he has a 'safe' approach which is boring but, well, safe. Then, bring back Claude Abrams. I'll never forgive him for saying Danny Williams did well to get up from the knockdowns against Samil Sam 'Those were knockout punches' but he's better than the loud idiot Bunce. Then, put Duke in the 'loud pundit' role just because there is noone else and at least he's funnier than Steve...

Looks bleak.

Perhaps, they can also look at the ITV football presenters, the likes of Matt Smith and even Des might be as good an alternative as Inverdale. Des has does well in other sports and Matt Smith seems to have a bright future. Isn't that Craig Doyle a bit a boxing fan?

I would prefer John Inverdale to Ronald McIntosh. Just I hope they won't resort to Mark Bright or that guy of the money programme again.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 11 May 2004, 08:55

Incidentally, I thought Michael Ayers was very good during the Lynes-Sarmiento clash.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2004, 09:03

bennie wrote:Incidentally, I thought Michael Ayers was very good during the Lynes-Sarmiento clash.

Nervous at first, I did initially think Ayers sounded a bit "punchy", but it was nerves and towards the end was getting more confident.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 09:09

stujones wrote:
bennie wrote:Incidentally, I thought Michael Ayers was very good during the Lynes-Sarmiento clash.
Nervous at first, I did initially think Ayers sounded a bit "punchy", but it was nerves and towards the end was getting more confident.

Yes Stu I thought exactly the same after the first interview, but he was better the second time.

Still didn't seem anything like as sharp as when he was fighting. That's one thing that always stood out with Ayers apart from his exciting fighting style, his great post fight interviews. You never got any bullshit.

bigynzing · Post by **bigynzing** » 11 May 2004, 11:53

Inverdale...public schoolboy...need i say more.