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Re: naseem

Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 05:39
by Tomasino
CiganoBoxer wrote:Tomasino you could say the something about Tyson tho , he never beat a HOF fighter in their prime or natural weight class ether .

That's why I don't rate Tyson as highly as most. He is a wasted talent IMO. Holy, Lewis and Bowe would have beaten him prime for prime and therefore I don't have him in my top ten heavies. He lost all his biggest fights.

Re: naseem

Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 05:56
by orbtastic
That's why nearly every boxing forum you go on has a Tyson/Hamed "what if" type thread, where pages and pages of career hypotheticals are discussed rather than what DID happen...but it's why they're both have specials in Boxing News this year (slow month for boxing) and why there are probably more threads about those 2 than any other boxers. They generate interest and always did. I had to chuckle when I saw Lampley and Merchant saying Tyson was bad for boxing and probably shouldn't be in the HOF and wasn't an ATG blah blah. They weren't saying that when they were commentating on his fights!

Re: naseem

Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 06:09
by lillywhite14
orbtastic wrote:That's why nearly every boxing forum you go on has a Tyson/Hamed "what if" type thread, where pages and pages of career hypotheticals are discussed rather than what DID happen...but it's why they're both have specials in Boxing News this year (slow month for boxing) and why there are probably more threads about those 2 than any other boxers. They generate interest and always did. I had to chuckle when I saw Lampley and Merchant saying Tyson was bad for boxing and probably shouldn't be in the HOF and wasn't an ATG blah blah. They weren't saying that when they were commentating on his fights!
They were too busy wanking each other off during the action

Re: naseem

Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 07:34
by Deserter
Bodyshot3 wrote:Clearly, the BN team feel that Naz should already be in there (hence their slightly random decision to publish a huge Hamed Special Edition out of the complete blue).
I am happy to state that almost certainly the Hamed Special will be nothing to do with HoF issues, but all to do with a mechanic to generate copy sales in a dead month. It'll be a business decision rather than an ethical one.

Re: naseem

Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 08:28
by lillywhite14
ThereByTheGrace wrote:No I don't think he should be in the HOF. He was a flash in the pan and when in the ring with his first elite level fighter he was schooled, and never came back.
Again, misconception that he was schooled. 'Being schooled' is a term thrown about far too often, Jeff Lacy was taken to school by Calzaghe. A schooling should be a near enough shut out, virtually every round. That wasn't the case with Naz-Barrera.

Re: naseem

Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 07:08
by Bricks
amirah wrote:do you guys/girls think he should be in the hall of fame???
I'm sick and tired of the myth he constantly peddles that he was original and no one had seen anything like him.90 per cent of his act was a Yorkshire Yemeni version of hector camacho snr, all the way to the little jheri curl at front to leopard trunks.rest was eubanks

Re: naseem

Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 07:17
by Tomasino
mugabi wrote:
amirah wrote:do you guys/girls think he should be in the hall of fame???
I'm sick and tired of the myth he constantly peddles that he was original and no one had seen anything like him.90 per cent of his act was a Yorkshire Yemeni version of hector camacho snr, all the way to the little jheri curl at front to leopard trunks.rest was eubanks

Pretty much. He was a bit more acrobatic than both of them though. Had he stayed around for JMM, Morales and Manny we wouldn't be discussing only the Barerrea loss, those three HOF guys would have burst him.

Re: naseem

Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 08:36
by Deserter
Tomasino wrote:
mugabi wrote:
amirah wrote:do you guys/girls think he should be in the hall of fame???
I'm sick and tired of the myth he constantly peddles that he was original and no one had seen anything like him.90 per cent of his act was a Yorkshire Yemeni version of hector camacho snr, all the way to the little jheri curl at front to leopard trunks.rest was eubanks

Pretty much. He was a bit more acrobatic than both of them though. Had he stayed around for JMM, Morales and Manny we wouldn't be discussing only the Barerrea loss, those three HOF guys would have burst him.
Think you're also forgetting the influence Herol Graham surely had on him?