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Parson Cross wrote:Just having a laugh reading back the old threads on this.
Wonder how many people will change their minds now ?

SamWise72 wrote:I can't see Georgie landing his Sunday punch again, so Froch for me. The KD won't be in Froch 's mind, he's been there before. What they'll both be remembering is that the last time either wad in the ring, Groves was getting punched round the ring like a rag doll. He's never got a man as hard as he hit Froch and have taken get up and fight on, and he's never been beaten up like that before. You'll see a more cautious Groves, and a more cautious Froch, then later it'll be the trenches, and Carl will win. Groves' real chance to beat Froch passed by when he didn't go for him after the knockdown, and it's not coming back.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It didn't go to purse bids, oh, what a surprise.

If Froch counters, he wins. If he leads, he loses.

Froch isn't and never has been a counterpuncher - he's too slow, that isn't how he will win.

Froch needs to start quicker, and not get clattered by a big shot early on. Apply steady pressure and not leave Groves as much time to pick him off. Froch could also do with throwing the jab with real purpose, and following it up immediately with other shots, instead of pawing with it, leaving himself to the right hand counter.

JimJim2009 wrote:

Parson Cross wrote:Just having a laugh reading back the old threads on this.
Wonder how many people will change their minds now ?

Do you mind me asking what you're gloating about Parson ?

(I don't mean that in a "did you spill my pint ?" way, I'm just curious. I tuned out of those debates after a while)

stevedoc wrote:

JimJim2009 wrote:

Parson Cross wrote:Just having a laugh reading back the old threads on this.
Wonder how many people will change their minds now ?

Do you mind me asking what you're gloating about Parson ?

(I don't mean that in a "did you spill my pint ?" way, I'm just curious. I tuned out of those debates after a while)

i think he means that he said a while back that the fight would happen in may when others were saying wouldn't happen, i might be completely wrong :)

keithmoonhangover wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:It didn't go to purse bids, oh, what a surprise.

If Froch counters, he wins. If he leads, he loses.

Froch isn't and never has been a counterpuncher - he's too slow, that isn't how he will win.

Froch needs to start quicker, and not get clattered by a big shot early on. Apply steady pressure and not leave Groves as much time to pick him off. Froch could also do with throwing the jab with real purpose, and following it up immediately with other shots, instead of pawing with it, leaving himself to the right hand counter.

In the last two rounds of the first fight, Carl waited for George to throw and then threw back. That's when he won the fight.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think that was because Groves was slowing down, and Froch could see that he needed to pick his spots. Froch cannot afford to stand and pose and leave Groves room to punch early on. If Groves paces himself, he could win on points, by building a big lead early on.

palooka wrote:Groves didn't hit Froch his hardest the first fight; he's landed bigger shots on other fighters, With a proper and settled camp Groves will knock Froch clean out. I hope Froch thinks he's taken the hardest shot and got through, he'll wake up the week after.

columbo wrote:

palooka wrote:Groves didn't hit Froch his hardest the first fight; he's landed bigger shots on other fighters, With a proper and settled camp Groves will knock Froch clean out. I hope Froch thinks he's taken the hardest shot and got through, he'll wake up the week after.

I think that's unfair mate lol

palooka wrote:

columbo wrote:

palooka wrote:Groves didn't hit Froch his hardest the first fight; he's landed bigger shots on other fighters, With a proper and settled camp Groves will knock Froch clean out. I hope Froch thinks he's taken the hardest shot and got through, he'll wake up the week after.

I think that's unfair mate lol

I can understand that columbo, it's just how I feel about it. It was Groves had the worst of it first time around - fall out with trainer, no gym, no routine, built up to be the anti hero and to have insulted the British icon so badly, With a proper settled camp he'll do much better than before. Froch will be another 6 months past his physical prime and a beating and a hard training camp after the last fight. Groves will do him.

Riddick Blowe wrote:For this rematch Groves will always have that nagging feeling in his head: 'Can I finish the fight?'

Froch will have no such worries.

That's huge mentally and it'll mean Groves will inevitably start slower and take no chances early. That plays into Froch's hands and allows Carl to feel his way into the fight so he's in a position to turn it up in the later rounds and manhandle Groves to another stoppage win.

palooka wrote:

columbo wrote:

palooka wrote:Groves didn't hit Froch his hardest the first fight; he's landed bigger shots on other fighters, With a proper and settled camp Groves will knock Froch clean out. I hope Froch thinks he's taken the hardest shot and got through, he'll wake up the week after.

I think that's unfair mate lol

I can understand that columbo, it's just how I feel about it. It was Groves had the worst of it first time around - fall out with trainer, no gym, no routine, built up to be the anti hero and to have insulted the British icon so badly, With a proper settled camp he'll do much better than before. Froch will be another 6 months past his physical prime and a beating and a hard training camp after the last fight. Groves will do him.

palooka wrote:How do you, like, know that it wasn't his best shot and this and that. You're properly being racist, but about his punching power and sh1t. If I was him, I'd be up in your face blaaad.

palooka wrote:Haha I'm sure you are and we'll leave it at that

palooka wrote:But you wanna ditch those shades, you look like him in Coronation Street

lillywhite14 wrote:I'm pleased it looks like it will be going ahead.

Certainly going to keep out of Froch-Groves threads from here on in though, judging from what's gone on in the past and how this one is shaping up already!

Enjoy the bickering ladies