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maley1984 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:unless it was Rob Kenny (also at the Tower), but being from your neck of the woods i'd have thought you'd have known him

No it was defo tony. U going the walsall show sat.

working/training on Saturday mate, is Chris out?

Counter-puncher wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:unless it was Rob Kenny (also at the Tower), but being from your neck of the woods i'd have thought you'd have known him

No it was defo tony. U going the walsall show sat.

working/training on Saturday mate, is Chris out?

No mate his currently unsure about his future we r going to support pearce (gym mate)

a question for you mate, you have seen Troy James live (i haven't), where do you see him fitting in the British title mix?

them over in Cov are quite excited by him, i think

Counter-puncher wrote:a question for you mate, you have seen Troy James live (i haven't), where do you see him fitting in the British title mix?

them over in Cov are quite excited by him, i think

He is defo in the mix. He can punch and take u out with one punch imo if he fights walsh or sykes he will hav to do. I think if u box at distance and not get into a war his beatable. ( Was the plan for chris but he got caught by a big punch early and troy jumped on him). I hope he goes on and gets a shot and wins it.

maley1984 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:a question for you mate, you have seen Troy James live (i haven't), where do you see him fitting in the British title mix?

them over in Cov are quite excited by him, i think

He is defo in the mix. He can punch and take u out with one punch imo if he fights walsh or sykes he will hav to do. I think if u box at distance and not get into a war his beatable. ( Was the plan for chris but he got caught by a big punch early and troy jumped on him). I hope he goes on and gets a shot and wins it.

i liked the idea i saw of him fighting our friend Ronnie Clark of this parish....

I have been to all Ronnie Clarks pro fights and most of his amateur/kickboxing fights. Have seen quite a few boxers live a few times but it's actually some kickboxers that I would say are the best fighters.. Scott Allan I think he will be a very good pro boxer fighting a bantamweight he will be in with a shot at becoming a British champion especially if he goes down to fly/superfly. Seen him fight since he was a kid along with his brother Sam. They are good lads. Lex Easden probably the biggest ring legend in the uk.. Was a privilage to see him fight. I think 15 time world champion and only ever beat once. He avenged that. He Has been in Ronnie's corner for a lot of years.

Counter-puncher wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:a question for you mate, you have seen Troy James live (i haven't), where do you see him fitting in the British title mix?

them over in Cov are quite excited by him, i think

He is defo in the mix. He can punch and take u out with one punch imo if he fights walsh or sykes he will hav to do. I think if u box at distance and not get into a war his beatable. ( Was the plan for chris but he got caught by a big punch early and troy jumped on him). I hope he goes on and gets a shot and wins it.

i liked the idea i saw of him fighting our friend Ronnie Clark of this parish....

Cud well happen I've never seen ronnie fight heard he is tough and strong. Spoke to a few people in the game about him and they wud favour troy if they met but all about oppinions.

n1ebf wrote:

pyenest77 wrote:Seen Henry a few times. Not sure why but he was on in my hometown quite often.

cos he's from West Yorkshire probably, at a guess.

He's from North Yorkshire. The York Barbican wasn't built until 1990 so there was nowhere for him to box. I guess you're from Dewsbury?

mickey1975 wrote:

n1ebf wrote:

pyenest77 wrote:Seen Henry a few times. Not sure why but he was on in my hometown quite often.

cos he's from West Yorkshire probably, at a guess.

He's from North Yorkshire. The York Barbican wasn't built until 1990 so there was nowhere for him to box. I guess you're from Dewsbury?

Batley, but have lived in Wakefield for the past fifteen years. I saw him at Dewsbury sports centre a few times, and Leeds town hall, plus Earls Court for the Benn fight

was Wharton considered a threat to Benn? It's just that on Benn's CV or 26 early KOs or whatever it was, Wharton sticks out like some kind of anomoly. It went the distance did it not?
It's just that from what I've read (just on this forum) Wharton was a hard man, and not lacking in skill himself. I might see if this is on Youtube...it's just before my time this fight.

n1ebf wrote:was Wharton considered a threat to Benn? It's just that on Benn's CV or 26 early KOs or whatever it was, Wharton sticks out like some kind of anomoly. It went the distance did it not?
It's just that from what I've read (just on this forum) Wharton was a hard man, and not lacking in skill himself. I might see if this is on Youtube...it's just before my time this fight.

20 years ago today that fight.

mickey1975 wrote:

n1ebf wrote:was Wharton considered a threat to Benn? It's just that on Benn's CV or 26 early KOs or whatever it was, Wharton sticks out like some kind of anomoly. It went the distance did it not?
It's just that from what I've read (just on this forum) Wharton was a hard man, and not lacking in skill himself. I might see if this is on Youtube...it's just before my time this fight.

20 years ago today that fight.

n1ebf wrote:was Wharton considered a threat to Benn? It's just that on Benn's CV or 26 early KOs or whatever it was, Wharton sticks out like some kind of anomoly. It went the distance did it not?
It's just that from what I've read (just on this forum) Wharton was a hard man, and not lacking in skill himself. I might see if this is on Youtube...it's just before my time this fight.

What do you mean by anomaly mate - Benn had been the distance several times before that fight?

Wharton was definitely considered a threat to Benn, I can still recall the Boxing Monthly preview for the fight 20 years on: "There Can Only Be One" was the headline.

Benn was the betting favourite but Wharton was considered a live underdog. Can't remember the odds but it was a big domestic fight at the time. Wharton proved his toughness without a doubt but to be honest Benn boxed more in that fight than he usually did, Henry was a bit of a plodder, which ironically was never the case in the amateurs. Thousands made the trip down to London and we were confident if Henry landed, he would win the fight, but unfortunately he was a bit too green, and the level playing field we were expecting - where they both go at each other - never really materialised, because Benn boxed really well. I'm not saying it if was a slugfest Henry would have definitely won, but that was figured to be his best chance as he certainly had power.

magnus wrote:

n1ebf wrote:was Wharton considered a threat to Benn? It's just that on Benn's CV or 26 early KOs or whatever it was, Wharton sticks out like some kind of anomoly. It went the distance did it not?
It's just that from what I've read (just on this forum) Wharton was a hard man, and not lacking in skill himself. I might see if this is on Youtube...it's just before my time this fight.

What do you mean by anomaly mate - Benn had been the distance several times before that fight?

Wharton was definitely considered a threat to Benn, I can still recall the Boxing Monthly preview for the fight 20 years on: "There Can Only Be One" was the headline.

fair do's mate, I couldn't remember where Wharton came in Benn's list of opponent's. I know he stopped about 22 or 26 in rnds 1 or 2, and I thought Wharton must have come fairly soon after that. I followed Benn's career for a few years, but Wharton I wasn't old enough to remember.

People still talk about Benn today.....Henry Wharton less so, hence my question. But from your reply it sounds like it was clearly a very good match up! I'll be catching up with it on Youtube later, I've checked and it's on there.

Going off an old memory here, but recall it being fairly close, competitive stuff, with Benn deserving the verdict. I remember thinking that Benn was a decent boxer (not just fighter) when he had to be and it showed that night.

Wharton was the type of fighter who brought out the best in others, as they probably had the "fear factor" facing him, as he had a cracking punch. Eubank and Reid both looked sharp against him, and needed to be.

A knockdown for Henry wasn't scored.

Kristian laight, delroy are the ones I've seen the most

Ryan Rhodes only missed 1 which I was not pleased about when he Ko'd Buchanan in 2 lol what an amazing story it was for a true British boxing legend been a pleasure bro thanks x

magnus wrote:Going off an old memory here, but recall it being fairly close, competitive stuff, with Benn deserving the verdict. I remember thinking that Benn was a decent boxer (not just fighter) when he had to be and it showed that night.

Wharton was the type of fighter who brought out the best in others, as they probably had the "fear factor" facing him, as he had a cracking punch. Eubank and Reid both looked sharp against him, and needed to be.

Great post.

I followed Henry from his debut to retirement, along the way he became a plodder who relied on his big left hook. To be fair, it was a devastating punch, but I was always baffled how he became a plodder. He represented England in the amateurs and was a real livewire. He got to the ABA finals and was DQ'd for punching below the belt, it was controversial and the punch wasn't really anywhere near the other guy's family jewels. I recall because back then the BBC showed the ABA's with considerable coverage. If he hadn't been DQ'd he would have won the ABA's, he was clearly better than the other guy that night.

JimJim2009 wrote:

magnus wrote:Going off an old memory here, but recall it being fairly close, competitive stuff, with Benn deserving the verdict. I remember thinking that Benn was a decent boxer (not just fighter) when he had to be and it showed that night.

Wharton was the type of fighter who brought out the best in others, as they probably had the "fear factor" facing him, as he had a cracking punch. Eubank and Reid both looked sharp against him, and needed to be.

Great post.

I followed Henry from his debut to retirement, along the way he became a plodder who relied on his big left hook. To be fair, it was a devastating punch, but I was always baffled how he became a plodder. He represented England in the amateurs and was a real livewire. He got to the ABA finals and was DQ'd for punching below the belt, it was controversial and the punch wasn't really anywhere near the other guy's family jewels. I recall because back then the BBC showed the ABA's with considerable coverage. If he hadn't been DQ'd he would have won the ABA's, he was clearly better than the other guy that night.

It was punching after the bell. It wasn't hard but it was blatant. Straight in the stomach after a frustrating round against an awkward opponent. Then all his fans kicked off...

Kevin Anderson, Paul Appleby, Stevie McGuire and Stuart Green twice.

Seen all of the above + Craig McEwan, Gary Young and countless others that i didnt realise at the time who went on to box pro in the Amateurs. Craig McEwan was head and shoulders above any amateur boxer I seen in the flesh, its a shame how his career has panned out.

mickey1975 wrote:

JimJim2009 wrote:

magnus wrote:Going off an old memory here, but recall it being fairly close, competitive stuff, with Benn deserving the verdict. I remember thinking that Benn was a decent boxer (not just fighter) when he had to be and it showed that night.

Wharton was the type of fighter who brought out the best in others, as they probably had the "fear factor" facing him, as he had a cracking punch. Eubank and Reid both looked sharp against him, and needed to be.

Great post.

I followed Henry from his debut to retirement, along the way he became a plodder who relied on his big left hook. To be fair, it was a devastating punch, but I was always baffled how he became a plodder. He represented England in the amateurs and was a real livewire. He got to the ABA finals and was DQ'd for punching below the belt, it was controversial and the punch wasn't really anywhere near the other guy's family jewels. I recall because back then the BBC showed the ABA's with considerable coverage. If he hadn't been DQ'd he would have won the ABA's, he was clearly better than the other guy that night.

It was punching after the bell. It wasn't hard but it was blatant. Straight in the stomach after a frustrating round against an awkward opponent. Then all his fans kicked off...

Yeah I remember watching that on TV as well - must be over 25 years ago !

I remember because I boxed on the home show of the lad who won (was his nick-name Rooster or something ?) - he won that night but I remember one of the other lads say that he was so bad he was good - in the way that novices can throw a punch that is so un-orthodox that is catches you out. I think that he was fit and strong but with low actual boxing skills.

Anyway, I now feel really old !

Larry (warmachine)

Seen him 6 times.

I followed Henry from his debut to retirement, along the way he became a plodder who relied on his big left hook. To be fair, it was a devastating punch, but I was always baffled how he became a plodder. He represented England in the amateurs and was a real livewire. He got to the ABA finals and was DQ'd for punching below the belt, it was controversial and the punch wasn't really anywhere near the other guy's family jewels. I recall because back then the BBC showed the ABA's with considerable coverage. If he hadn't been DQ'd he would have won the ABA's, he was clearly better than the other guy that night.[/quote]
It was punching after the bell. It wasn't hard but it was blatant. Straight in the stomach after a frustrating round against an awkward opponent. Then all his fans kicked off...[/quote]

That's some memory you have I can still see the punch, I thought it was low but yep I recall now it being after the bell. No need to throw the guy out for it, it wasn't full blooded.