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Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:03
by powderPuff
It was a shove big deal

Can you imagine the uproar if it was Tyson like

Poeple would be asking for a lynching :doh:

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:05
by sweetscience
off topic but noticed the show is billed... 'Eddie Hearn presents....'

that guy loves the sound of his own name

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:05
by Cherrybomb
powderPuff wrote:It was a shove big deal

Can you imagine the uproar if it was Tyson like

Poeple would be asking for a lynching :doh:
:TU:

And it sells, its PPV after all.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:09
by Jimmyfreestyler
Lee Froch....dear oh dear, what an idiot.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:10
by palooka
Cherrybomb wrote:
powderPuff wrote:It was a shove big deal

Can you imagine the uproar if it was Tyson like

Poeple would be asking for a lynching :doh:
:TU:

And it sells, its PPV after all.
That's not why he did it though is it cherry? Froch is nervous and that is with his brothers acting heavy; it'll be good to see if he does it again what Groves does - he doesn't seem the least worried.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:10
by Cherrybomb
sweetscience wrote:off topic but noticed the show is billed... 'Eddie Hearn presents....'

that guy loves the sound of his own name
Its billed "The Rematch"

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:12
by Glass Joe
i think lee and carl are just playing the wrestling heal.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:18
by Cherrybomb
palooka wrote: That's not why he did it though is it cherry? Froch is nervous and that is with his brothers acting heavy; it'll be good to see if he does it again what Groves does - he doesn't seem the least worried.
Who knows, he doesnt seem nervous to me, more annoyed. And I think both fighters know very well that the hate fuels the sales, so consciously or subconsciously, theyll use chances to stir things up.

My comment was also in relations to Eddie not saying anything to team Froch about the shoving, why would he? It sells.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:26
by leejoorin
Just me who think Froch's brother is playing mind games on Froch's behalf and acting like a nuisance to try and offset Groves?

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:28
by palooka
leejoorin wrote:Just me who think Froch's brother is playing mind games on Froch's behalf and acting like a nuisance to try and offset Groves?
I think he likes the limelight and knows there's not a chance of Groves whacking him so he's acting up as if he's hard.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:32
by danconnollyeire
The Insider wrote:
milpool wrote:He's not doing his brother any favours, that's for sure...
My very first thought. Lee might be doing enough to turn the neutrals against Carl.
The thing is... and firstly, I've always been a Froch and Groves fan

Yes Groves can be annoying... very, very annoying. Maybe sometimes stupid. But that's all he is, annoying and stupid. Froch (and his close relative) on the other hand, taking the p1ss out of male pattern baldness (not that Froch has much of a hairline himself), threatening to kill people if he has to (Kessler), making fun of halitosis and being ginger is plain offensive. Not just to Groves, but millions of other people.

After the Bute fight, Froch was on the brink of being the next 'people champion'. Can't see that happening now

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:36
by big lennox
danconnollyeire wrote:
The Insider wrote:
milpool wrote:He's not doing his brother any favours, that's for sure...
My very first thought. Lee might be doing enough to turn the neutrals against Carl.
The thing is... and firstly, I've always been a Froch and Groves fan

Yes Groves can be annoying... very, very annoying. Maybe sometimes stupid. But that's all he is, annoying and stupid. Froch (and his close relative) on the other hand, taking the p1ss out of male pattern baldness (not that Froch has much of a hairline himself), threatening to kill people if he has to (Kessler), making fun of halitosis and being ginger is plain offensive. Not just to Groves, but millions of other people.

After the Bute fight, Froch was on the brink of being the next 'people champion'. Can't see that happening now
If Groves stops Froch, which can't be ruled out, I do wonder how Carl would mentally recover from that. Groves is obviously anticipating a convincing win.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:39
by danconnollyeire
big lennox wrote: If Groves stops Froch, which can't be ruled out, I do wonder how Carl would mentally recover from that. Groves is obviously anticipating a convincing win.
I thought that exactly thing earlier. If he KO's Froch in one, I could picture a future addict/despressive

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:40
by mickey1975
I'd love it if George beats him, love it.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:44
by lefty
danconnollyeire wrote:
The Insider wrote:
milpool wrote:He's not doing his brother any favours, that's for sure...
My very first thought. Lee might be doing enough to turn the neutrals against Carl.
The thing is... and firstly, I've always been a Froch and Groves fan

Yes Groves can be annoying... very, very annoying. Maybe sometimes stupid. But that's all he is, annoying and stupid. Froch (and his close relative) on the other hand, taking the p1ss out of male pattern baldness (not that Froch has much of a hairline himself), threatening to kill people if he has to (Kessler), making fun of halitosis and being ginger is plain offensive. Not just to Groves, but millions of other people.

After the Bute fight, Froch was on the brink of being the next 'people champion'. Can't see that happening now
It doesnt matter but I thought Carl has got a full head of hair.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:44
by lefty
mickey1975 wrote:I'd love it if George beats him, love it.
The spirit of Kevin Keegan is alive and well :DD

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:46
by The Insider
Press conferences need to step up of late.

If someone ain't getting glassed, bitten, hit with tripods, threatened with being shot/burnt or rolling round in puddles in cheap matalan suits then I ain't interested.

Bad breath and shoving, PAH do me a favour.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:48
by jameswilson
columbo wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
The thing is... and firstly, I've always been a Froch and Groves fan

Yes Groves can be annoying... very, very annoying. Maybe sometimes stupid. But that's all he is, annoying and stupid. Froch (and his close relative) on the other hand, taking the p1ss out of male pattern baldness (not that Froch has much of a hairline himself), threatening to kill people if he has to (Kessler), making fun of halitosis and being ginger is plain offensive. Not just to Groves, but millions of other people.

After the Bute fight, Froch was on the brink of being the next 'people champion'. Can't see that happening now
It doesnt matter but I thought Carl has got a full head of hair.
Once he took the mickey out of halitosis tho Carl's hairline was dead to Dan. Carl may as well be Duncan Goodhew to him now.....

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:50
by Counter-puncher
The Insider wrote:Press conferences need to step up of late.

If someone ain't getting glassed, bitten, hit with tripods, threatened with being shot/burnt or rolling round in puddles in cheap matalan suits then I ain't interested.
.
:TU:

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:51
by Cherrybomb
danconnollyeire wrote:
big lennox wrote: If Groves stops Froch, which can't be ruled out, I do wonder how Carl would mentally recover from that. Groves is obviously anticipating a convincing win.
I thought that exactly thing earlier. If he KO's Froch in one, I could picture a future addict/despressive
No chance. He'd retire and say that he has gotten old and doesnt have it anymore. He's achieved loads in his career, a constant overachiever, he has a hot wife, two kids and a great life outside boxing. And millions of pounds. And he'd throw it all away because he got knocked out at age 36/37 to someone he hates?

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:55
by palooka
What happens to someone emotionally isn't ruled by intellect or reason; there are many people who have many good things in their life and one big 'fly in the soup' that spoils it all; boxers in particularly may appear very strong minded when things are going their way but when they get a bad loss it can take years to come back from - no matter how pretty their wife is or how many houses they have.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:55
by lefty
Cherrybomb wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:
big lennox wrote: If Groves stops Froch, which can't be ruled out, I do wonder how Carl would mentally recover from that. Groves is obviously anticipating a convincing win.
I thought that exactly thing earlier. If he KO's Froch in one, I could picture a future addict/despressive
No chance. He'd retire and say that he has gotten old and doesnt have it anymore. He's achieved loads in his career, a constant overachiever, he has a hot wife, two kids and a great life outside boxing. And millions of pounds. And he'd throw it all away because he got knocked out at age 36/37 to someone he hates?
Yeah I imagine it would be how he framed it is his mind. If he framed it as being at top of his game and being knocked out by a guy he thinks is shit then I could imagine it would eat him up inside. On the other hand, if he just thought to himself well im not as young as I once was and so on then im sure he'll be fine. It shows how powerful the human mind is though and how if you frame things in a negative manor, it can literally destroy your life.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 11:57
by danconnollyeire
If Groves beats Carl, Lee Froch could boil down to a 200lb catchweight?

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 12:00
by Cherrybomb
Agreed that it could happen to anyone, however, Froch is about the last I would predict it upon, no matter the outcome of may 31st. Someone like Ricky Hatton was always a different animal.

Re: Lee Froch v George Groves

Posted: 10 Mar 2014, 12:30
by danconnollyeire
Just watched the press conference. Lee Froch shouting 'bullsh1t' in the background on daytime TV. Doing a lot for boxing and his brothers rep he is