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Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:05
by DMA1987
SNG wrote:DMA1987 wrote:SNG wrote:
I've not been following his news for a bit who are they looking at for July?
It seems people are finally catching up to what I've been saying for three years.

The winner of Porter v Malignaggi for the IBF.
Can't argue with that. Paulie would be a very winnable fight for Brook, I don't know enough about Porter to properly have an opinion, but from what I've seen I don't think he's anything massively special.
He beat Alexander well for whatever that form is worth. I think at the minimum it's getting towards where we all want Kell to be.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:11
by rio
Parson Cross wrote:Like most people I have been waiting for the last 3 years for Brook to step up and prove hes world class. Instead all I have seen are an endless stream of eliminators, final eliminators and "keep busy fights" all against sub par/poor opposition.
Rio
Re above you do know he fights either Paulie or Porter on or before 19/7 ?
Very aware. However I remember after Brook beat senchenko hearn went on record saying Brooks next fight would be against Kahn, broner or for a title. He fought Robles (who??) He should have fought Bradley and all questions would have been answered now. Its time to stop talking the talk and walk the walk. It been a long time coming. Most guys are already champion after 30 fights. If Hearn and co believe he is as good as they let on they would have let him fight Bradley.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:13
by DMA1987
rio wrote:Parson Cross wrote:Like most people I have been waiting for the last 3 years for Brook to step up and prove hes world class. Instead all I have seen are an endless stream of eliminators, final eliminators and "keep busy fights" all against sub par/poor opposition.
Rio
Re above you do know he fights either Paulie or Porter on or before 19/7 ?
Very aware. However I remember after Brook beat senchenko hearn went on record saying Brooks next fight would be against Kahn, broner or for a title. He fought Robles (who??) He should have fought Bradley and all questions would have been answered now. Its time to stop talking the talk and walk the walk. It been a long time coming. Most guys are already champion after 30 fights. If Hearn and co believe he is as good as they let on they would have let him fight Bradley.
Bradley was turned down a year before the Senchenko fight.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:16
by rio
My point was he turned down a world title shot.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:19
by BAP1
One thing that annoys me is that kell has had 32 fights and the best boxer he has faced is Lovermore Ndou!
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:30
by Parson Cross
Ffs he is the mandatory for the IBF.
A condition of the Porter v Malinaggi fight is that the winner must face Brook on or before 19/7 or be stripped.
How big a guarentee do you want ?
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:37
by wadey
Parson Cross wrote:Ffs he is the mandatory for the IBF.
A condition of the Porter v Malinaggi fight is that the winner must face Brook on or before 19/7 or be stripped.
How big a guarentee do you want ?
Less chance than zero of it happening, given that Pauli and Porter don't actually fight for another 2 weeks.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:39
by Parson Cross
What ?
Are you on something ?
Never heard of the 90 day rule ?
Thanks for deleting the pm before I could read it.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:49
by rio
Hes been mandatory for over 2 years. That's why everyone is very skeptical.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:51
by wadey
Parson Cross wrote:What ?
Are you on something ?
Never heard of the 90 day rule ?
Thanks for deleting the pm before I could read it.
Yes reality...
Didn't mean to PM, that's why I obviously deleted it.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:56
by Parson Cross
It's getting boring now.
The fight between Paulie and Shawn was only approved if both fighters had a clause in their contracts that the winner face Brook on or before 19/7. The IBF are shit hot on the 90 day rule for mandatories - ask Jamie McDonnell.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 17:59
by palooka
Can't believe you're still biting.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 18:11
by BAP1
Parson Cross wrote:Ffs he is the mandatory for the IBF.
A condition of the Porter v Malinaggi fight is that the winner must face Brook on or before 19/7 or be stripped.
How big a guarentee do you want ?
How many times has he been in eliminators and mandatory positions, everyone is fed up mate! We keep getting told he is a special one but it's against nobody's.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 18:13
by Parson Cross
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 05 Apr 2014, 18:19
by palooka
Parson Cross wrote:
But not before they wound you up.
When will you learn

Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world lever operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 04:25
by Pugilist-specialist
billy nelson wrote:Michael bennt wrote:You have Eddie Hearn and sky sports ramming it down are throat with all this the special one poo but fact of the matter is he is a European level fighter at best and deep down brooks know it as well, he got offered a fight for the ibf title against k9 bundredge and turned it down he then turned a fight back against Bradley and he also didn't want none of Devon Alexander, I just don't see a world level fighter, plus I have heard of boxing people I highly respect that he doesn't live the life he is a party animal and has gone up in weight as high as 14 stone, other top welterweight like , mayweather, Thurman, Madina ,Bradley, Marquez, pacquiao would all knock him out and hurt him and I would also pick the underrated Shawn porter and Robert Guerrero to out point him the so called special one
I think your spot on I'd favour all the names you've mentioned and Amir Khan to beat Kell
Did you tell Kell that when you got his autograph in Sheffield?

Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 05:12
by palooka
Did he sign Billys boobies?
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 05:25
by mickey1975
If Kell can keep strong at the weight, he's a problem for all the top fighters.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 10:52
by BAP1
mickey1975 wrote:If Kell can keep strong at the weight, he's a problem for all the top fighters.
How did you come to that conclusion?
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 11:07
by littlepug
Think kell struggles to go through the gears, also not sure how mentally strong he is.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 11:30
by mickey1975
BAP1 wrote:mickey1975 wrote:If Kell can keep strong at the weight, he's a problem for all the top fighters.
How did you come to that conclusion?
Because I don't think anyone will have an easy night with him.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 14:58
by DMA1987
littlepug wrote:Think kell struggles to go through the gears, also not sure how mentally strong he is.
He toughed it out against Jones. Outside the ring I think it's safe to say he could be mentally stronger, but hopefully his team are all over that.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 15:02
by Michael bennt
I think it comes down to the fact brook hasn't got the balls, desire or hunger to mix it with big boys and deep down he knows it that's why he turns fight against Bradley, k9 and Devon down and is happy beating up Mexican road sweepers on big cards put on by boxings newest biggest conn man Hearn
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 06 Apr 2014, 18:11
by Kilburn
I think Porter could well be a nightmare for Brook personally.
Re: Am not sold on Kell Brook as a world level operator
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 04:14
by forcefraser
Kilburn wrote:I think Porter could well be a nightmare for Brook personally.
Porter should not be a nightmare for any fighter with designs on being top level.