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Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 16:46
by bigjack
Riddick Blowe wrote:stevieb_8006 wrote:The older I get, the more I think benn and Eubank are MASSIVELY overrated cos they were so high profile. Both got a few gifts in their time, and u could argue that they weren't even the best domestically (graham, Watson...) and let's be honest, the Brits liked to pretend the middle/super middle divisions didn't exist in the states. Rjj, toney, nunn, even mccallum would've beaten them, I'm sure there's a few others I'm forgetting as well.
So yeah, Jackson could well beat him.
What do you mean 'even' McCallum? The Bodysnatcher was a genius in the ring, and so tough that Jackson's shots just pinged off his iron head. Mike would have made mincemeat of all the Brits.
McCallum was avoided like the plague and would have destroyed Benn
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 16:51
by Teddy's Toupee
Riddick Blowe wrote:stevieb_8006 wrote:The older I get, the more I think benn and Eubank are MASSIVELY overrated cos they were so high profile. Both got a few gifts in their time, and u could argue that they weren't even the best domestically (graham, Watson...) and let's be honest, the Brits liked to pretend the middle/super middle divisions didn't exist in the states. Rjj, toney, nunn, even mccallum would've beaten them, I'm sure there's a few others I'm forgetting as well.
So yeah, Jackson could well beat him.
What do you mean 'even' McCallum? The Bodysnatcher was a genius in the ring, and so tough that Jackson's shots just pinged off his iron head. Mike would have made mincemeat of all the Brits.
I'm a fan of McCallum, but he only managed a split decision win over Herol Graham who got, rather harshly, docked a point which lost him the fight.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 16:52
by DMA1987
Teddy's Toupee wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:stevieb_8006 wrote:The older I get, the more I think benn and Eubank are MASSIVELY overrated cos they were so high profile. Both got a few gifts in their time, and u could argue that they weren't even the best domestically (graham, Watson...) and let's be honest, the Brits liked to pretend the middle/super middle divisions didn't exist in the states. Rjj, toney, nunn, even mccallum would've beaten them, I'm sure there's a few others I'm forgetting as well.
So yeah, Jackson could well beat him.
What do you mean 'even' McCallum? The Bodysnatcher was a genius in the ring, and so tough that Jackson's shots just pinged off his iron head. Mike would have made mincemeat of all the Brits.
I'm a fan of McCallum, but he only managed a split decision win over Herol Graham, who got docked a point which lost him the fight.
Bomber Graham was a very very good fighter. One of my favourites. Also bear in mind he was controlling Jackson until his all time power connected.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 16:53
by crusader
Pound for pound, I think Jackson may be the hardest puncher of all time.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 17:14
by mikiesb
Benn to.win. benn.beat gman who beat j j to.my knowledg . who did benn ever duck ?fights.being
Made are.about timing. Steve collins.did well.against m McCallum. Benn.and eubanks would
Of beat.everyone apart.from maybe m McCallum. Eubank also.said. he would never of fought h. Graham
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 07 Apr 2014, 18:39
by stevieb_8006
Riddick Blowe wrote:stevieb_8006 wrote:The older I get, the more I think benn and Eubank are MASSIVELY overrated cos they were so high profile. Both got a few gifts in their time, and u could argue that they weren't even the best domestically (graham, Watson...) and let's be honest, the Brits liked to pretend the middle/super middle divisions didn't exist in the states. Rjj, toney, nunn, even mccallum would've beaten them, I'm sure there's a few others I'm forgetting as well.
So yeah, Jackson could well beat him.
What do you mean 'even' McCallum? The Bodysnatcher was a genius in the ring, and so tough that Jackson's shots just pinged off his iron head. Mike would have made mincemeat of all the Brits.
Yep but he was knocking on a bit by then I meant
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 03:11
by orbtastic
I think Benn is my all-time favourite British fighter. He goes to my best mate's wife's GP practice, he met him last week. If I met him I'd be like "Nige you'd have chinned him mate blah blah" and despite the fact Benn could hit very hard and had that will to win, especially when hurt, I think even the middleweight Jackson still has enough one-hit power and speed to stop him.
I've got all their televised fights and was a huge Jackson fan in the day, he was something to watch. He could have his off nights and was effectively a puffed up light middle when at 160, but he could still hit and had very quick hands, and hit spectacularly hard with either.
I'm sure if I met Jackson I'd be in awe, particularly if he still had that 90s fade.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 04:05
by stevieb_8006
orbtastic wrote:particularly if he still had that 90s fade.
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Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 04:58
by misterpunch
Jackson wins a close points decision in a chess like snooze-fest :(
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 05:46
by Ezzard
Benn.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 07:06
by bennie
If I had to put my life on it, I would lean towards Jackson because of what he did to Terry Norris and Bomber. He showed he could take out world class opposition with one clean shot whereas Benn, at the very top, usually clubbed opponents to defeat over a number of rounds.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 07:16
by Ezzard
You have to remember though that Jackson was much more susceptible to being derailed by one shot. Benn was naturally bigger too.
Nigel also had more strings to his bow. He was always aggressive but he learned to box at a pace and not blow all his gunpowder early on. Nigel could see out a points victory.
It could go either way but I'd make Nigel favourite
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 07:22
by orbtastic
Points isn't something synonymous with Jackson, even late in his career when he was clearly shot.
It was either KO or get KO'd trying.
Apart from a couple of very early fights, Tate was the first person to take him the distance after a long early win streak. At the time people were saying Jackson was finished and looked bad etc. Only very late in his career did he have a couple of pts wins when he was actually well past his best.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 08:15
by palooka
He goes to my best mate's wife's GP practice,
That is the most tenuous link in history
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Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 11:25
by orbtastic
palooka wrote: He goes to my best mate's wife's GP practice,
That is the most tenuous link in history
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Absolutely true though. He went to meet her for lunch last week and old Nige is sitting opposite him waiting for the doctor. I will find out what he's in for, although obviously that breaks patient confidentiality agreements.
It's pretty random though, to say they're out in Sydney. What's the chances etc.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 13:49
by palooka
Can you remember when the police put a picture of him in the paper saying he'd been shoplifting or something and a security guard grabbed him? Some very brave store detectives, (or it may be my mind playing tricks).
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 13:58
by Rexob
Love Benn, but I think Jackson would probably take Benns shots, but not so sure Benn could take Jacksons? So Jackson by TKO in about the 3rd or 4th in a thriller.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 15:14
by mickey1975
palooka wrote:Can you remember when the police put a picture of him in the paper saying he'd been shoplifting or something and a security guard grabbed him? Some very brave store detectives, (or it may be my mind playing tricks).
I can
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 15:17
by palooka
mickey1975 wrote:palooka wrote:Can you remember when the police put a picture of him in the paper saying he'd been shoplifting or something and a security guard grabbed him? Some very brave store detectives, (or it may be my mind playing tricks).
I can
No way I'd grab Nigel Benn in a headlock if he'd nicked some cheese and bacon.
Re: Nigel Benn vs Julian Jackson - who would have won?
Posted: 08 Apr 2014, 15:28
by dr_devious
Didnt Benn clock the security guard and injure his hand, it was around about the Watson and Eubank fights from memory?
As for Benn v Jackson, 50:50 fight who lands clean first wins imo.