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columbo wrote:

Taansend wrote:

G0mez wrote:I reckon Eddie is going to try and make this a proper all-dayer of fights with a couple of mustard showdowns before the main event.

I agree, mate. This is not just about Froch v Groves but also about Eddie Hearns legacy on the sport. If the undercard is shite & the main event fails for whatever reason he'll be as pissed off as anyone.

He genuinely loves the sport & his place in it. He seems like a kid on Chrimbo morning.

He loves the pound note more than he loves the sport.

Do you think boxing is wildly profitable in general? I reckon it's tough, you need a love of the sport first and foremost I think.

Do you think boxing is wildly profitable in general? I reckon it's tough, you need a love of the sport first and foremost I think.[/quote]

I don't imagine it's like printing money and more than a few promoters, managers and trainers have their families involved so I imagine that they consider it a better way of making a good living than working in a 'normal' job.

For the younger Warrens and Eddie Hearn for instance, the hard graft - the getting into the sport, making contacts and the experience of who to work with and who can be trusted is done - they can reap the rewards though I imagine it's not as easy as it looks; I imagine it's a fair bit easier than getting punched around for a few hundred quid or shovelling 10 ton of hard core.

For the trainers and managers I realise that they must have a love of the sport (or an unhealthy interest in being around other men in a gym environment) some do well out of the sport and some put an awful lot of time in for little monetary reward (or it costs them money).

Bit of a daft move to leave allegedly for Hennessy.

Taansend wrote:

G0mez wrote:I reckon Eddie is going to try and make this a proper all-dayer of fights with a couple of mustard showdowns before the main event.

I agree, mate. This is not just about Froch v Groves but also about Eddie Hearns legacy on the sport. If the undercard is shite & the main event fails for whatever reason he'll be as pissed off as anyone.

He won't be as pissed of as me; he'll be able to console himself with the million or so quid he'll make that night and I'll have spent £15, worked myself into a fever of hate and anticipation and then been let down; it's happened before and it's not pretty to see.

I just hope Nigel Kennedy isn't playing the anthem.

James DeGale vs Brandon Gonzales has been added to the undercard. Final eliminator. Very good test for DeGale.

Taansend wrote:James DeGale vs Brandon Gonzales has been added to the undercard. Final eliminator. Very good test for DeGale.

The Buture's Fright.

I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

SteveDow wrote:I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

I think that's probably the idea.

ILikeBeer wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

I think that's probably the idea.

You're too young to be so cynical.

So far we have
Froch v Groves
Mitchell v Maduma IBF Eliminator
DeGale v Gonzales IBF Eliminator
Joshua v TBA

If Eddie hadn't done his usual of bigging the show up and bragging how good it would be, "at least 1, possibly 2 world title fight" "a massive domestic showdown" I'd of been well happy with that so far. With McDonell also likely to be in a eliminator it leaves a lot to be desired from what was originally promised

SteveDow wrote:I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

That draw was against Thomas Oostenhuizen (excuse spelling) who is a decent enough prospect himself - although he needs to be at Light Heavy.

I wouldn't classify this as an easy fight for Degale.

Should Froch-Groves end the way Hall-Ward did then what should be a 'great' night for British boxing may suddenly change to a Haye-Harrison type backlash. I would have thought that a decent undercard was some sort of insurance that that wouldn't be the case. Not good enough at the moment.

Taansend wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

That draw was against Thomas Oostenhuizen (excuse spelling) who is a decent enough prospect himself - although he needs to be at Light Heavy.

I wouldn't classify this as an easy fight for Degale.

Tommy was HORRIBLE that night, gift draw for him there.

Boxing Prospect wrote:

Taansend wrote:

SteveDow wrote:I'd not heard of Gonzalez before but looking at his record Degale should be beating him fairly comfortably. He's had a lot of very close points wins and drew his fight before last.

That draw was against Thomas Oostenhuizen (excuse spelling) who is a decent enough prospect himself - although he needs to be at Light Heavy.

I wouldn't classify this as an easy fight for Degale.

Tommy was HORRIBLE that night, gift draw for him there.

He's been dropped by his promoter aswell.

jackukmma wrote:So far we have
Froch v Groves
Mitchell v Maduma IBF Eliminator
DeGale v Gonzales IBF Eliminator
Joshua v TBA

If Eddie hadn't done his usual of bigging the show up and bragging how good it would be, "at least 1, possibly 2 world title fight" "a massive domestic showdown" I'd of been well happy with that so far. With McDonell also likely to be in a eliminator it leaves a lot to be desired from what was originally promised

You should still be happy and don`t get caught up with what Hearn says on ifilm nothing was promised,he also said expect two area title fights and anything else is a bonus I know he was joking but the point is not to take everything said to Kugan as a promise, just what he would try to make for the card.

ashedward wrote:

jackukmma wrote:So far we have
Froch v Groves
Mitchell v Maduma IBF Eliminator
DeGale v Gonzales IBF Eliminator
Joshua v TBA

If Eddie hadn't done his usual of bigging the show up and bragging how good it would be, "at least 1, possibly 2 world title fight" "a massive domestic showdown" I'd of been well happy with that so far. With McDonell also likely to be in a eliminator it leaves a lot to be desired from what was originally promised

You should still be happy and don`t get caught up with what Hearn says on ifilm nothing was promised,he also said expect two area title fights and anything else is a bonus I know he was joking but the point is not to take everything said to Kugan as a promise, just what he would try to make for the card.

He downplayed it this time but still promised at least 1 world title possibly 2. Suppose if he's got McDonnell a shot at the WBA regular he's fulfilled his promise. If that comes off the undercard is the best PPV undercard he's produced by a mile

jackukmma wrote:

ashedward wrote:

jackukmma wrote:So far we have
Froch v Groves
Mitchell v Maduma IBF Eliminator
DeGale v Gonzales IBF Eliminator
Joshua v TBA

If Eddie hadn't done his usual of bigging the show up and bragging how good it would be, "at least 1, possibly 2 world title fight" "a massive domestic showdown" I'd of been well happy with that so far. With McDonell also likely to be in a eliminator it leaves a lot to be desired from what was originally promised

You should still be happy and don`t get caught up with what Hearn says on ifilm nothing was promised,he also said expect two area title fights and anything else is a bonus I know he was joking but the point is not to take everything said to Kugan as a promise, just what he would try to make for the card.

He downplayed it this time but still promised at least 1 world title possibly 2. Suppose if he's got McDonnell a shot at the WBA regular he's fulfilled his promise. If that comes off the undercard is the best PPV undercard he's produced by a mile

Fair play mate, I take what he says to Kugan on Ifilm with a pinch of salt because he gets carried away with talking about the fights he would like to make

Noticed on his IFL chat yesterday he said 2 fights announced for the undercard next week one of which is a world.