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Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 09:49
by expe
mullenman wrote:they are great for boxing and making the big fights
they have got boxing back to stadiums from small halls shows

Look what happend to frank W last night
average show and his average fighters got bet in from of average crowds

the matchroom shows are getting better
Hearn has Sky behind him, but he still can't make big fights, Warren's having to do it the hard way, running his own channel and Hearn isn't really producing any better, just a series of mismatches and South Americans.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 10:31
by leforge
Hearn has Sky behind him, but he still can't make big fights, Warren's having to do it the hard way, running his own channel and Hearn isn't really producing any better, just a series of mismatches and South Americans.[/quote]
Froch v Groves 2 not a big fight then?

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 10:39
by expe
leforge wrote: Froch v Groves 2 not a big fight then?
1 big fight, in about 3 years and even that was mostly done for him, the IBF made Groves mandatory, controversial stoppage, mandatory challenger again.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 10:50
by mullenman
has there ever been a bigger fight in the uk?

fw cards are total muck

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 10:53
by jameswilson
mullenman wrote:has there ever been a bigger fight in the uk?

fw cards are total muck

Ssshhhhhhhh don't point out to him that there has been more than 1 big fight in the last 3 years on Sky. And that when allegedly did 'have it easy' with Sky back in the day he put worse cards on.

His little brain will short circuit with the new information otherwise. We need him for the entertainment value.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 11:19
by leforge
expe wrote:
leforge wrote: Froch v Groves 2 not a big fight then?
1 big fight, in about 3 years and even that was mostly done for him, the IBF made Groves mandatory, controversial stoppage, mandatory challenger again.
Bute Kessler big fights ! Crawford over for burns but get you know best! In last 3 years there not been many big fights in the uk

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 11:41
by jameswilson
leforge wrote:
expe wrote:
leforge wrote: Froch v Groves 2 not a big fight then?
1 big fight, in about 3 years and even that was mostly done for him, the IBF made Groves mandatory, controversial stoppage, mandatory challenger again.
Bute Kessler big fights ! Crawford over for burns but get you know best! In last 3 years there not been many big fights in the uk
Are you mad? Those fights are nothing on Hatton v Ray 'Sucra' Oliveira.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:29
by mickey1975
mullenman wrote:they are great for boxing and making the big fights
they have got boxing back to stadiums from small halls shows

Look what happend to frank W last night
average show and his average fighters got bet in from of average crowds

the matchroom shows are getting better
Matchroom promoted in stadiums twenty years ago... Fwank has done two in the last three years.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:37
by DMA1987
jameswilson wrote:
mullenman wrote:has there ever been a bigger fight in the uk?

fw cards are total muck

Ssshhhhhhhh don't point out to him that there has been more than 1 big fight in the last 3 years on Sky. And that when allegedly did 'have it easy' with Sky back in the day he put worse cards on.

His little brain will short circuit with the new information otherwise. We need him for the entertainment value.
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:40
by expe
DMA1987 wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
mullenman wrote:has there ever been a bigger fight in the uk?

fw cards are total muck

Ssshhhhhhhh don't point out to him that there has been more than 1 big fight in the last 3 years on Sky. And that when allegedly did 'have it easy' with Sky back in the day he put worse cards on.

His little brain will short circuit with the new information otherwise. We need him for the entertainment value.
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
It's Eddie, just too Essexy for me, the show this weekend in Manchester looks good though, all the fights look to be pretty well matched, even if it is topped by a fake world title fight.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:42
by mickey1975
Luke Campbell is out.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:55
by Chambers2
I like to see competition between promoters, but I think Eddie is doing an excellent job

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 11:56
by DMA1987
expe wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
jameswilson wrote:

Ssshhhhhhhh don't point out to him that there has been more than 1 big fight in the last 3 years on Sky. And that when allegedly did 'have it easy' with Sky back in the day he put worse cards on.

His little brain will short circuit with the new information otherwise. We need him for the entertainment value.
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
It's Eddie, just too Essexy for me, the show this weekend in Manchester looks good though, all the fights look to be pretty well matched, even if it is topped by a fake world title fight.
The Crolla fight could have probably topped it, I'm interested to see what he is actually going to do with Quigg. Can't have many more poor defences in him, don't want him to go the way of Clev.

Mate I can't condone the loafer no socks look, but then I look at Warren and I know I'm happiest snuggled up next to Hearn.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 12:41
by jameswilson
DMA1987 wrote:
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
Oh he knows his stuff inside out.

If Eddie is 'too Essexey' tho I don't know what to make of George Warren. He's like a cross between Joey Essex and David Bentley.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 12:43
by expe
jameswilson wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
Oh he knows his stuff inside out.

If Eddie is 'too Essexey' tho I don't know what to make of George Warren. He's like a cross between Joey Essex and David Bentley.
Thankfully we don't see George that often, although he must have more brains than Joey Essex to be managing director, even for Queensbury.

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 12:47
by DMA1987
expe wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
Oh he knows his stuff inside out.

If Eddie is 'too Essexey' tho I don't know what to make of George Warren. He's like a cross between Joey Essex and David Bentley.
Thankfully we don't see George that often, although he must have more brains than Joey Essex to be managing director, even for Queensbury.
I'd imagine his dad pretty much runs it for him?

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 12:54
by jameswilson
expe wrote: Thankfully we don't see George that often, although he must have more brains than Joey Essex to be managing director, even for Queensbury.
I don't doubt he has more brains than Joey Essex. Airborn bacteria probably edge Joey in that department.

But I think even if he did have the brain level of Joey Essex I'd expect he would still somehow find a way to be high up in the Queensbury ladder. I always find it amusing when allegedly has a go at Eddie for being born with the silver spoon and having his position handed to him off the back of his Dad. I suppose George and Francis were raised by wolves on the mean streets of the Bronx and had to go through SAS selection to get their positions at Queensbury.....

Re: Matchrooms's Expansion Good Or Bad For British Boxing?

Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 02:21
by earsjohn
jameswilson wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
I like expe, he generally knows his stuff. He just goes a bit spastic when Matchroom enter the conversation.
Oh he knows his stuff inside out.

If Eddie is 'too Essexey' tho I don't know what to make of George Warren. He's like a cross between Joey Essex and David Bentley.
Would that make him David Essex?

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