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Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:46
by expe
columbo wrote:expe wrote:columbo wrote:
Dunno what to make of Lee! He's got skills I think but seems to end up struggling against guys he shouldnt. Was that at middleweight by the way? I read somewhere that Lee was going down to light middle? I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment.
11st 2lbs, Lee is going down to light middle, I'd expect the next fight to be for a title of some sort at 11st.
why the hell is he going down to light middle at this stage of his career?! Doesnt make a lot of sense that.
It's the right weight for him to be honest, he was never a big middleweight and now he's moved down he should be hitting a bit harder and not having to worry about the size difference.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:46
by jameswilson
Frig me Khomitsky landing some big ones here.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:47
by Old bones Ian
Frank's right hand looks a bit slow tonight, seems to be suffering from the big build up, not getting into this at the moment
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:47
by Tangerine
good to finally see Buglioni in a test,he will learn plenty from this
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:48
by Boxing Prospect
Be great to see Franks 2 ticket sellers lose on the same show! Bye bye Copperbox shows!
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:48
by MR T
Buglioni is going to get starched if he doesn't sort his defence
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:49
by lefty
Buglioni got exposed badly there. He's got a decent chin on him but that's not good.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:49
by expe
columbo wrote:jameswilson wrote:columbo wrote:
why the hell is he going down to light middle at this stage of his career?! Doesnt make a lot of sense that.
Well if he can make the weight without feeling drained surely it's better, regardless of what stage he is at in his career. He might have just suddenly lost 5 or 6 pounds naturally.
Yeah but why didnt he do that before? Just seems odd. Also it's probably gonna affect his punch resistance.
Turned pro in America and at times they do prefer the more traditional weights, so it's possible that's why he went down that route, but he was making 11st 6lbs for non title fights, which is usually an indicator you should be at the weight below.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:50
by Old bones Ian
Good call from trainer there, quite right to stop it. Shame for Frank, but also nice to see a fired up challenger from east europe
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:50
by Ian1973
Very poor from Buglioni, I gave him a share of two rounds and i thought I was being generous. Looked outclassed tonight, all of the quality punches came from Khomitsky.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:51
by rossij8
its good to see competitive fights - sorry for both Fwanks though
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:51
by expe
Boxing Prospect wrote:Be great to see Franks 2 ticket sellers lose on the same show! Bye bye Copperbox shows!
Why would it be good to see them lose? The Copperbox shows are decent and they keep fighters active, why would anyone want to see less shows put on domestically?
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:52
by MR T
Yep great call from mark tibbs, not sure why the ref didn't stop it
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:53
by ShadrachSimmo
Ian1973 wrote:Very poor from Buglioni, I gave him a share of two rounds and i thought I was being generous. Looked outclassed tonight, all of the quality punches came from Khomitsky.
He may have found his level. He got pummelled in that 6th round.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:53
by Ian1973
MR T wrote:Yep great call from mark tibbs, not sure why the ref didn't stop it
I'm not sure the ref knew what to do, it didn't look like it to me.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:53
by jameswilson
To be honest I think Khomitsky looks under-rated. I think people must think Murray was underperforming against him and ok he might have been a little but but maybe not as much as the matchmaker thought.
Does that make any sense?
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:53
by Boxing Prospect
expe wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Be great to see Franks 2 ticket sellers lose on the same show! Bye bye Copperbox shows!
Why would it be good to see them lose? The Copperbox shows are decent and they keep fighters active, why would anyone want to see less shows put on domestically?
It's good to see over-hyped guys exposed, it may now actually be a case of putting on more good match ups to sell shows rather than relying on 2 guys with undeserved popularity.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:54
by Old bones Ian
MR T wrote:Yep great call from mark tibbs, not sure why the ref didn't stop it
Well the ref was right to start a count, as the ropes did stop Frank from going down. I don't know why they keep saying he was wrong to do that. But the Ref should of waved it off after the count as Frank was gone, no legs under him.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:55
by jameswilson
rossij8 wrote:its good to see competitive fights - sorry for both Fwanks though
Getting KO'd after losing most of the rounds is competitive is it?
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:55
by lefty
jameswilson wrote:To be honest I think Khomitsky looks under-rated. I think people must think Murray was underperforming against him and ok he might have been a little but but maybe not as much as the matchmaker thought.
Does that make any sense?
I think that was too big of a jump to be honest. He should of fought one of the good domestic super middles.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:55
by MR T
Ian1973 wrote:MR T wrote:Yep great call from mark tibbs, not sure why the ref didn't stop it
I'm not sure the ref knew what to do, it didn't look like it to me.
I think the home fighter sometimes gets a bit of creative reffing
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:56
by expe
jameswilson wrote:To be honest I think Khomitsky looks under-rated. I think people must think Murray was underperforming against him and ok he might have been a little but but maybe not as much as the matchmaker thought.
Does that make any sense?
Yep, people put his good performances against Murray down to Murray being below his best, rather than Khomitsky actually being a pretty good fighter and the same goes for his fights against Rhodes and Moore.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:56
by rossij8
jameswilson wrote:rossij8 wrote:its good to see competitive fights - sorry for both Fwanks though
Getting KO'd after losing most of the rounds is competitive is it?
I mean in reverse towards the home fighter - most of the time they are home shut outs
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:57
by lefty
I dont particularily rate Mark tibbs as a trainer. He sounds a bit clueless in the corner to me. Obviously his dad is a legend and know's a huge amount but yeah not sold on his son.
Re: Conquest vs Mckenzie RBR
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 16:57
by The Insider
jameswilson wrote:Frig me Khomitsky landing some big ones here.
Threw some lovely left hand leads. Frank just couldn't get out the way.