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Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 12:46
by chad
gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
But won't he still have a conviction on his record regardless of whether he did time or not? The US Department of Homeland Security state: "
any convictions for drug possession can result in denial of entry."
In 2010 our very own Olympic champion Amir Khan was denied a US work visa ahead of his fight against Malignaggi, reportedly due to motoring offences in the UK.
I think he will get into the US, but will have problems along the way.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 12:47
by Coco
gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
Nigella Lawson got refused entry recently despite hosting a big money tv show for admitting to sniffing a a few lines years back.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 14:22
by expe
Coco wrote:gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
Nigella Lawson got refused entry recently despite hosting a big money tv show for admitting to sniffing a a few lines years back.
If she can't get in, without a conviction, Joshua's struggling, whatever he had on him, it must have been a bit bigger than some weed, you only get a caution for that, unless it wasn't the first time he'd been caught with it, in which case his record will be a bit longer.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 15:01
by mickey1975
Sims never got in for Purdy but did for Barker-Geale. Peter Fury will never get in.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 15:02
by Boxing Prospect
mickey1975 wrote:Sims never got in for Purdy but did for Barker-Geale. Peter Fury will never get in.
Did Peter not say he would but they messed it up last time?
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 16:21
by london
chad wrote:In 2011 Joshua pleaded guilty to drug dealing and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours’ unpaid work. Admission into the States is usually denied if you have convictions for drug possession, especially if they are recent. Joshua is tipped for the top however how big can he become if he is unable to fight in America? It seems unlikely he'll be able to go over to fight for a version of the world title, and it's unlikely that any future American holding the title would be prepared to leave the States to accommodate a title defense against Joshua.
Wow found guilty in Crown Court and only a community order looks like Anthony Joshua did a deal...
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 16:30
by chad
london wrote:chad wrote:In 2011 Joshua pleaded guilty to drug dealing and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours’ unpaid work. Admission into the States is usually denied if you have convictions for drug possession, especially if they are recent. Joshua is tipped for the top however how big can he become if he is unable to fight in America? It seems unlikely he'll be able to go over to fight for a version of the world title, and it's unlikely that any future American holding the title would be prepared to leave the States to accommodate a title defense against Joshua.
Wow found guilty in Crown Court and only a community order looks like Anthony Joshua did a deal...
Yeah he gave the Judge a suitcase of grass
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 16:32
by DazBoxingFan
America is no longer the place for heavyweight boxing, so I don't think it'll matter as much
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 17:58
by lillywhite14
london wrote:chad wrote:In 2011 Joshua pleaded guilty to drug dealing and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours’ unpaid work. Admission into the States is usually denied if you have convictions for drug possession, especially if they are recent. Joshua is tipped for the top however how big can he become if he is unable to fight in America? It seems unlikely he'll be able to go over to fight for a version of the world title, and it's unlikely that any future American holding the title would be prepared to leave the States to accommodate a title defense against Joshua.
Wow found guilty in Crown Court and only a community order looks like Anthony Joshua did a deal...
Hello Dillian
Is it true you were shunned in the ams because you competed way below the level you should have been operating at?

Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 18:49
by mickey1975
Boxing Prospect wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Sims never got in for Purdy but did for Barker-Geale. Peter Fury will never get in.
Did Peter not say he would but they messed it up last time?
No, he said his legal team were on it this time but if it doesn't happen there is nothing he can do about it. He can't even spend money without letting the authorities know, he is never going to America.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 21:58
by Wales
columbo wrote:Finch wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:You need to fight in the States if you want to be a megastar. They will want you over there
Wlad doesn't and is a megastar!
I dont know if he is a megastar. Obviously he's big in Germany but a lot of people worldwide who follow boxing probably wouldnt know who he was.
Wlad doesn't fight there but has lived in Beverley Hills, Carlifornia since his early career and is dating an American movie actress who was in Scream and a bunch of other stuff.
My missus knows who "that klitchko" is as he often appears in women's magazines pictured on the beach. Bet he's done tv adverts or interviews or modelling over there too - he was in oceans 11 too (fighting Lewis actually)
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 22:10
by Wales
mickey1975 wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Sims never got in for Purdy but did for Barker-Geale. Peter Fury will never get in.
Did Peter not say he would but they messed it up last time?
No, he said his legal team were on it this time but if it doesn't happen there is nothing he can do about it. He can't even spend money without letting the authorities know, he is never going to America.
Wonder how money spent works - must be monthly statement or some equivalent token ball-ache procedure that's nothing but hassle for both parties!
This chap near us
news.sky.com/story/781037/outlaws-gang- ... over-drugs has just been released and has to phone police every time he goes in a car and tell them what the car is, where he's going and with who. Guess it's an easy violation of parole if caught. Silly considering he's a biker though
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Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 03:40
by mickey1975
He got sent sent back to prison a few years ago for financial irregularities. Thankfully, he does have a fair bit of legal money. London gangster Terry Adams has just done another stretch for making unreported purchases.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 03:47
by tobyh5
forcefraser wrote:Stupid law. Do they fear that someone like Joshua would dissapear and start knocking out some weed before his flight home?
Maybe they think he'ø turn his back on the boxing and start bringing the U S of A down from the inside whilst on the run?
God fearing maniacs.
Or maybe they do not want to set a legal precedent by allowing entry to someone outside of the criteria and it should not matter if he is a boxer wanting to fight over there. Many people want to go to the states for work reasons what are equally as important to them and their lives, even if their own profession is not something televised.
Or maybe they do not want to allow him entry to fight as that also allows him entry when he is not fighting and maybe he will knock out some weed on those occasions. Oh thats right, it is unheard of for boxers (or human beings) to revert to form.
Instead of getting peed at the system, how about looking at the fact Joshua is the one who broke the law and it is correct that he was only done for possession but there is strong evidence that he was flogging it too.
#rolemodel
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 16:01
by london
lillywhite14 wrote:london wrote:chad wrote:In 2011 Joshua pleaded guilty to drug dealing and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours’ unpaid work. Admission into the States is usually denied if you have convictions for drug possession, especially if they are recent. Joshua is tipped for the top however how big can he become if he is unable to fight in America? It seems unlikely he'll be able to go over to fight for a version of the world title, and it's unlikely that any future American holding the title would be prepared to leave the States to accommodate a title defense against Joshua.
Wow found guilty in Crown Court and only a community order looks like Anthony Joshua did a deal...
Hello Dillian
Is it true you were shunned in the ams because you competed way below the level you should have been operating at?

Grow up just because I think Dillan Whyte has a great future it doesn't mean I'm him.
If you want to ask Dillian a question go down to Miguels or get him on twitter.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 18:23
by gobbles
Coco wrote:gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
Nigella Lawson got refused entry recently despite hosting a big money tv show for admitting to sniffing a a few lines years back.
That was an odd one. Joshua has been sentenced, Nigella admitted to committing a crime in court, so supposedly the offence was still active.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 05:18
by IRLangmaid25
Wladimir Klitchsko's profile in the United States is fairly strong as he has fought in the United States and has some of his fights on HBO's air such as Corrie Sanders' loss, plus he has fought Sam Peter, Calvin Brock and Tony Thompson on their air, and they also showed the David Haye as well. Plus his relationship with the American actress Hayden Panettiere has seen feature in the gossip pages as well as the sports pages.
As for Anthony Joshua being allowed to fight in the States with his conviction for intent to supply. It is too early to think about it yet as he has yet to fight for Area, English and British titles yet. So let's see Handsome Eddie get through those first.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 05:45
by Tomasino
Finch wrote:renegadeboxing wrote:Mike Tyson was a rapist, still got to fight, Hopkins , done major time, when money speaks, money talks
They didn't have to apply for a visa to fight.
The thread appears to be about Joshua getting a visa to fight in the US not US residents requiring a visa to fight in their own country.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 11:05
by nfc90210
expe wrote:Coco wrote:gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
Nigella Lawson got refused entry recently despite hosting a big money tv show for admitting to sniffing a a few lines years back.
If she can't get in, without a conviction, Joshua's struggling, whatever he had on him, it must have been a bit bigger than some weed, you only get a caution for that, unless it wasn't the first time he'd been caught with it, in which case his record will be a bit longer.
As I understand it, Lawson was denied entry on the visa waiver program. She wasn't denied a visa.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 13:39
by followthecamel
chad wrote:gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
But won't he still have a conviction on his record regardless of whether he did time or not? The US Department of Homeland Security state: "any convictions for drug possession
can result in denial of entry."
In 2010 our very own Olympic champion Amir Khan was denied a US work visa ahead of his fight against Malignaggi, reportedly due to motoring offences in the UK.
I think he will get into the US, but will have problems along the way.
Can is not will. It looks like its down to the US governments's discretion wether he is permitted or not. Since he is rich and famous he will probably be granted a Visa.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 13:46
by lefty
mickey1975 wrote:He got sent sent back to prison a few years ago for financial irregularities. Thankfully, he does have a fair bit of legal money. London gangster Terry Adams has just done another stretch for making unreported purchases.
How did Peter make his money out of curiousity?
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 24 Apr 2014, 06:22
by mickey1975
columbo wrote:mickey1975 wrote:He got sent sent back to prison a few years ago for financial irregularities. Thankfully, he does have a fair bit of legal money. London gangster Terry Adams has just done another stretch for making unreported purchases.
How did Peter make his money out of curiousity?
No. Crime.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 24 Apr 2014, 06:32
by danconnollyeire
chad wrote:gobbles wrote:He wasn't found guilty of drug dealing.
He was charged with possession with intent to supply but the charge was lowered to possession, which he admitted to.
Yes, he will be allowed to get into America. He served no time and he is an Olympic champion
But won't he still have a conviction on his record regardless of whether he did time or not? The US Department of Homeland Security state: "
any convictions for drug possession can result in denial of entry."
In 2010 our very own Olympic champion Amir Khan was denied a US work visa ahead of his fight against Malignaggi, reportedly due to motoring offences in the UK.
I think he will get into the US, but will have problems along the way.
They make exceptions for people of importance, especially when they're proven not a threat or likely to offend (with Joshua is)
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 24 Apr 2014, 07:09
by ILikeBeer
No, but wasn't there some issue about Mike Tyson not being allowed to fight in the UK in the lead up to him.... fighting in the UK.
There'll be a way around these things if need be, there always is.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be allowed to fight in America?
Posted: 24 Apr 2014, 07:43
by mickey1975
ILikeBeer wrote:No, but wasn't there some issue about Mike Tyson not being allowed to fight in the UK in the lead up to him.... fighting in the UK.
There'll be a way around these things if need be, there always is.
There isn't. Tyson was legally allowed, it was pressure groups trying to stop it. Nothing really. It's the other way round over there, and they don't budge for anyone.