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I was hoping someone like john Mcdermott would get the call. maybe next time.

Glass Joe wrote:I was hoping someone like john Mcdermott would get the call. maybe next time.

He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

jameswilson wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:I was hoping someone like john Mcdermott would get the call. maybe next time.

He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

Atleast you're honest about it mate. I know you're a fan of Eddie and matchroom and so on so you could of stuck to your guns on that.

columbo wrote:

jameswilson wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:I was hoping someone like john Mcdermott would get the call. maybe next time.

He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

Atleast you're honest about it mate. I know you're a fan of Eddie and matchroom and so on so you could of stuck to your guns on that.

I think you're at times unfair on Matchroom and obviously we've banged heads on that point. The guys coming back off of injuries or defeats, or who are just marking time before a WT shot or an eliminator should be excused gimme fights, and I don't (or try not to) whinge about Frank or Micks gimme opponents when his fighters are in similar situations.

This is pretty poor tho because Joshua hasn't been out with a long term injury, and they've had ages to bring someone in. This is the kinda guy usually brought in at 2 weeks notice if someone pulls out. The only excuse for this is if indeed someone of the standard of Jason Gavern was booked but pulled out a few days ago leaving no decent opponents willing to take the fight at 14 days notice.

Can anyone be excused for taking or promoting gimmes? regardless of situation it is a rip off to the public and ultimately does the fighter no good at all. Paul Smiths recent "bout" an example, pointless and wont help him at all when it comes to fighting Abraham-better off with some tough sparring.

Time and again guys who get gimmes come unstuck when they meet someone who can fight. I know what you are saying but everyone should have at least a 10% chance of winning. The only way Joshua loses this is if he trips up on the steps into the ring and knocks himself out.

The British fight public are a knowledgeable bunch and all his will do is alienate them from a young man who has real potential.

Broomhall wrote:I know what you are saying but everyone should have at least a 10% chance of winning. The only way Joshua loses this is if he trips up on the steps into the ring and knocks himself out.

Amazing that you now have the no1 and no2 most idiotic sentences ever on boxrec, one after the other.

Apparantly the Joshua fight is on Sky Sports 1 as a taster and to ramp up sales for the PPV so it will be on early and over early too.

jameswilson wrote:

columbo wrote:

jameswilson wrote:
He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

Atleast you're honest about it mate. I know you're a fan of Eddie and matchroom and so on so you could of stuck to your guns on that.

I think you're at times unfair on Matchroom and obviously we've banged heads on that point. The guys coming back off of injuries or defeats, or who are just marking time before a WT shot or an eliminator should be excused gimme fights, and I don't (or try not to) whinge about Frank or Micks gimme opponents when his fighters are in similar situations.

This is pretty poor tho because Joshua hasn't been out with a long term injury, and they've had ages to bring someone in. This is the kinda guy usually brought in at 2 weeks notice if someone pulls out. The only excuse for this is if indeed someone of the standard of Jason Gavern was booked but pulled out a few days ago leaving no decent opponents willing to take the fight at 14 days notice.

Na you're right. I am a little unfair at times. To be honest i'm not that keen on promoters generally because as a boxing fan I just want to see the best fights and that it's in conflict to a large degree with a promoters interests so I guess it's natural really lol. I just wish there was a way that boxing could be restructured so that promoters and fighters were rewarded more for taking the tough tests in a way that would encourage the best fighting the best. Impossible in reality most likely but a man can dream.

tony1234 wrote:Apparantly the Joshua fight is on Sky Sports 1 as a taster and to ramp up sales for the PPV so it will be on early and over early too.

Do you really think it will ramp up sales though?

jameswilson wrote:

Broomhall wrote:I know what you are saying but everyone should have at least a 10% chance of winning. The only way Joshua loses this is if he trips up on the steps into the ring and knocks himself out.

Amazing that you now have the no1 and no2 most idiotic sentences ever on boxrec, one after the other.

Followed swiftly by the third.

Broomhall wrote:Can anyone be excused for taking or promoting gimmes? regardless of situation it is a rip off to the public and ultimately does the fighter no good at all. Paul Smiths recent "bout" an example, pointless and wont help him at all when it comes to fighting Abraham-better off with some tough sparring.

Time and again guys who get gimmes come unstuck when they meet someone who can fight. I know what you are saying but everyone should have at least a 10% chance of winning. The only way Joshua loses this is if he trips up on the steps into the ring and knocks himself out.

The British fight public are a knowledgeable bunch and all his will do is alienate them from a young man who has real potential.

The British "fight public" are knowledgable but they will be a tiny minority within the crowd at Froch/Groves.

The money comes from these know eff all types. Look at how much Hatton made off the back of the 'average man' going to support him. He had a long run of questionable opponents before he stepped up to face Tszyu yet it was sell out after sell out. They go so they can say they were there most of the time, as opposed to actually enjoying and appreciating the skill and courage on show.

'That Joshua fella is quality mate, see how he took that other blokes head off his shoulders, gonna be world champ'
I can hear it now...

lillywhite14 wrote:

Broomhall wrote:Can anyone be excused for taking or promoting gimmes? regardless of situation it is a rip off to the public and ultimately does the fighter no good at all. Paul Smiths recent "bout" an example, pointless and wont help him at all when it comes to fighting Abraham-better off with some tough sparring.

Time and again guys who get gimmes come unstuck when they meet someone who can fight. I know what you are saying but everyone should have at least a 10% chance of winning. The only way Joshua loses this is if he trips up on the steps into the ring and knocks himself out.

The British fight public are a knowledgeable bunch and all his will do is alienate them from a young man who has real potential.

The British "fight public" are knowledgable but they will be a tiny minority within the crowd at Froch/Groves.

The money comes from these know eff all types. Look at how much Hatton made off the back of the 'average man' going to support him. He had a long run of questionable opponents before he stepped up to face Tszyu yet it was sell out after sell out. They go so they can say they were there most of the time, as opposed to actually enjoying and appreciating the skill and courage on show.

'That Joshua fella is quality mate, see how he took that other blokes head off his shoulders, gonna be world champ'
I can hear it now...

They're mugs to be exploited.

Big fan of Joshua but I'm disappointed with this opponent. I appreciate he's only a 5 fight novice but Matt Legg is probably the worst of his opponents so far. I'm only assuming they were struggling to find anyone suitable...

milpool wrote:Big fan of Joshua but I'm disappointed with this opponent. I appreciate he's only a 5 fight novice but Matt Legg is probably the worst of his opponents so far. I'm only assuming they were struggling to find anyone suitable...

Money talks. They were probably offering chump change.

columbo wrote:

jameswilson wrote:

Glass Joe wrote:I was hoping someone like john Mcdermott would get the call. maybe next time.

He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

Atleast you're honest about it mate. I know you're a fan of Eddie and matchroom and so on so you could of stuck to your guns on that.

There is such a thing as indefensible. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I tried defending that opponent.

Joshua Ko 1

milpool wrote:Big fan of Joshua but I'm disappointed with this opponent. I appreciate he's only a 5 fight novice but Matt Legg is probably the worst of his opponents so far. I'm only assuming they were struggling to find anyone suitable...

There are about 400 heavyweights more suitable than Legg. They could have easily got someone better than this and not had to shell out too much either.

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:

jameswilson wrote:
He's pulled out of more fights of late than I care to remember. Someone of his standard would have been about right tho, and Legg is definitely not that.

Atleast you're honest about it mate. I know you're a fan of Eddie and matchroom and so on so you could of stuck to your guns on that.

There is such a thing as indefensible. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I tried defending that opponent.

Wilson and DMA - The Boxrec voices of reason.

jameswilson wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:I'm a big Joshua fan but this guy sure does look like a scrub.

Anyway, a quick, lethal 1-round KO in front of a hell of a lot of people isn't going to hurt him.

I doubt there will be more than 4,000 people in that long before the main event.

The potential audience at home is large. Folk won't be missing Big Josh. Why put him on first though?

stupid matchup

loads of other brits around

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

Disappointing choice - essentially a record padding fight.

He doesn't need to be thrown in too deep as he's still essentially a novice (started boxing very late - at 18/19 I believe).

But what he does need is opponents who will pose different problems, different looks and different styles. That way when he does take a significant step up in levels, he's used to dealing with a variety of styles and sizes. Fights like this are "nothing" fights and for me a complete waste of time.

Good old Jason Gavern (longtime boxrec poster and prize fighter participant) would have been a good shout!

Targeting Wlad next year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -2015.html

James Toney recently stopped this guy in 3. Nuff said

Naandrew wrote:Targeting Wlad next year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -2015.html

The chances of that happening next year are zero. If they want to build his profile I think they should look at a domestic showdown with Hughie Fury at the end of this year (which I'd expect him to win fairly easily) and then maybe a fight with the loser of Fury v Chisora or with Price in about 9-12 months time.

Anthony Joshua if you're reading this

1. Please step up your opposition
2. Learn to fight inside
3. Go to America/Germany and spar
4. Train smart and Stop lifting heavyweights otherwise you'll end up like Bruno
5. Have a word with Eddie and tell him fighting Matt Legg isn't doing anything for your career


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