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Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:24
by expe
nick885 wrote:Expe and jameswilson any comment on what perales and malinga have been recorded as saying after their fights with hall, there have been interviews in the press and on tv.
Never seen anything of them saying what you claim they've said, provide some evidence then I'll pass comment, until then it's just your word and from past experience, I get the feeling you're talking bollocks.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:25
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:Expe and jameswilson any comment on what perales and malinga have been recorded as saying after their fights with hall, there have been interviews in the press and on tv.
I'm not saying Malinga won that fight. Perales was interviewed with Hall straight after the fight and said he thought he (Perales) won the fight. Hall came across atrociously in that post fight interview incidentally which is what one of the comments expe mentioned was referring to.
If that fight and post fight interview was on youtube we could make it the third time you have claimed something and immediately been proved as incorrect as you earlier claimed Perales thought he lost the fight, which is quite blatantly untrue.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:30
by expe
jameswilson wrote:nick885 wrote:Expe and jameswilson any comment on what perales and malinga have been recorded as saying after their fights with hall, there have been interviews in the press and on tv.
I'm not saying Malinga won that fight. Perales was interviewed with Hall straight after the fight and said he thought he (Perales) won the fight. Hall came across atrociously in that post fight interview incidentally which is what one of the comments expe mentioned was referring to.
If that fight and post fight interview was on youtube we could make it the third time you have claimed something and immediately been proved as incorrect as you earlier claimed Perales thought he lost the fight, which is quite blatantly untrue.
Can't find the post fight interview, but...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... tal_title/
'Perales, who felt he had done enough to win, was left stunned, while Hall elated by the judges' 117-111, 117-111 and 115-113 scorecards'
Then 7 months later...
http://m.brownsvilleherald.com/sports/l ... l?mode=jqm
'Perales was coming off a 12-round unanimous decision loss May 11 in England to British fighter Stuart Hall (15-2-1) with an IBF Intercontinental title on the line. Perales and trainer Robert Campos believe he was robbed of the victory in that fight. But there’s no looking back to that loss now'
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:42
by nick885
expe wrote:nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
So body punches aren't scoring punches? Christ I've heard it all now.

You clearly don't have a effing clue how a fight's scored if you think rounds are won based on who lands the most punches.
They weren't even my comments anyway, I was quoting other people you tool, I didn't see the Perales fight, I was watching Burns-Gonzalez, but everyone on the RBR thought Perales got robbed.
You need to go back to school the comment was back of head and body as in back of head and back of body As for your comment about how a fight is scored, quote a punch must be of sufficient force and land on the target area if the judges followed the rules it would be scored on punches landed. You need to re study the Nobel art and I am not a tool I was only known for using them when I was in if you know what I mean.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:50
by stujones
Personally thought Perales beat Hall.
I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.
McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:56
by expe
nick885 wrote:expe wrote:nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
So body punches aren't scoring punches? Christ I've heard it all now.

You clearly don't have a effing clue how a fight's scored if you think rounds are won based on who lands the most punches.
They weren't even my comments anyway, I was quoting other people you tool, I didn't see the Perales fight, I was watching Burns-Gonzalez, but everyone on the RBR thought Perales got robbed.
You need to go back to school the comment was back of head and body as in back of head and back of body As for your comment about how a fight is scored, quote a punch must be of sufficient force and land on the target area if the judges followed the rules it would be scored on punches landed. You need to re study the Nobel art and I am not a tool I was only known for using them when I was in if you know what I mean.
'You need to go back to school' then fail to put a full stop at the end of the sentence
Back of body, as in back, maybe? It implied that the body wasn't a scoring area. Rounds are scored on far more than just punches landed, that quote is from the old amateur scoring system of one point per clean punch landed, the professional game scores fights on the 10 point must system, based on punches landed, weight of the punches, effective aggression, defence and a few other things.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:58
by expe
stujones wrote:Personally thought Perales beat Hall.
I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.
McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.
Randy Caballero will be fighting the winner of next Saturday's fight, after that it's anyone's guess, no guarantee that Butler stays at bantamweight, but after Caballero it will probably be a voluntary, then Haskins, or Haskins straight away if they can't find a domestic opponent, they'll run out soon.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:59
by nick885
expe wrote:jameswilson wrote:nick885 wrote:Expe and jameswilson any comment on what perales and malinga have been recorded as saying after their fights with hall, there have been interviews in the press and on tv.
I'm not saying Malinga won that fight. Perales was interviewed with Hall straight after the fight and said he thought he (Perales) won the fight. Hall came across atrociously in that post fight interview incidentally which is what one of the comments expe mentioned was referring to.
If that fight and post fight interview was on youtube we could make it the third time you have claimed something and immediately been proved as incorrect as you earlier claimed Perales thought he lost the fight, which is quite blatantly untrue.
Can't find the post fight interview, but...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... tal_title/
'Perales, who felt he had done enough to win, was left stunned, while Hall elated by the judges' 117-111, 117-111 and 115-113 scorecards'
Then 7 months later...
http://m.brownsvilleherald.com/sports/l ... l?mode=jqm
'Perales was coming off a 12-round unanimous decision loss May 11 in England to British fighter Stuart Hall (15-2-1) with an IBF Intercontinental title on the line. Perales and trainer Robert Campos believe he was robbed of the victory in that fight. But there’s no looking back to that loss now'
Still that's not what they said when intrrviewed before that speak to the fighters.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:12
by expe
nick885 wrote:expe wrote:jameswilson wrote:
I'm not saying Malinga won that fight. Perales was interviewed with Hall straight after the fight and said he thought he (Perales) won the fight. Hall came across atrociously in that post fight interview incidentally which is what one of the comments expe mentioned was referring to.
If that fight and post fight interview was on youtube we could make it the third time you have claimed something and immediately been proved as incorrect as you earlier claimed Perales thought he lost the fight, which is quite blatantly untrue.
Can't find the post fight interview, but...
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... tal_title/
'Perales, who felt he had done enough to win, was left stunned, while Hall elated by the judges' 117-111, 117-111 and 115-113 scorecards'
Then 7 months later...
http://m.brownsvilleherald.com/sports/l ... l?mode=jqm
'Perales was coming off a 12-round unanimous decision loss May 11 in England to British fighter Stuart Hall (15-2-1) with an IBF Intercontinental title on the line. Perales and trainer Robert Campos believe he was robbed of the victory in that fight. But there’s no looking back to that loss now'
Still that's not what they said when intrrviewed before that speak to the fighters.
There's quotes from the fight report, then another from 7 months later, both saying that Perales thought he was robbed, James has also said that Perales claimed he was robbed in the post fight interview and since you've been proved to have been lying in most of you're posts on here, I'll take his word over yours.
'Speak to the fighters'
Oh, sorry, do you want me to give em a bell? Speak all the time me and Vusi, right funny fornicator that lad. Dickhead.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:14
by nick885
expe wrote:stujones wrote:Personally thought Perales beat Hall.
I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.
McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.
Randy Caballero will be fighting the winner of next Saturday's fight, after that it's anyone's guess, no guarantee that Butler stays at bantamweight, but after Caballero it will probably be a voluntary, then Haskins, or Haskins straight away if they can't find a domestic opponent, they'll run out soon.
McDonnell has more chance than haskins of getting a fight.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:15
by stujones
expe wrote:stujones wrote:Personally thought Perales beat Hall.
I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.
McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.
Randy Caballero will be fighting the winner of next Saturday's fight, after that it's anyone's guess, no guarantee that Butler stays at bantamweight, but after Caballero it will probably be a voluntary, then Haskins, or Haskins straight away if they can't find a domestic opponent, they'll run out soon.
I predict if Butler wins it will be Caballero, if Hall wins - Caballero will take a step aside.
Sorry, I did mean Bantam title.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:19
by nick885
expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:25
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Yeah he is dead and posting from the other side via a medium.
Can you guess what my display name means?
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:25
by nick885
expe you havant commented on malinga saying hall punches harder than Santa Cruz.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:30
by nick885
jameswilson wrote:nick885 wrote:expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Yeah he is dead and posting from the other side via a medium.
Can you guess what my display name means?
Wasn't directed to you and honesty I don't give one what your display name or real name means for that matter. Knew a Charlie Wilson though.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:39
by jameswilson
nick885 wrote:jameswilson wrote:nick885 wrote:expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Yeah he is dead and posting from the other side via a medium.
Can you guess what my display name means?
Wasn't directed to you and honesty I don't give one what your display name or real name means for that matter. Knew a Charlie Wilson though.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:52
by nick885
Jameswilson total haskins fan

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 18:16
by expe
nick885 wrote:expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Does 885 refer to the number of brain cells you have?
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 27 May 2014, 18:16
by expe
nick885 wrote:expe you havant commented on malinga saying hall punches harder than Santa Cruz.
You're yet to provide the evidence of him saying that and since we've proved that you've been lying on at least three occasions, I'm backing you to continue the streak.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 02:18
by earsjohn
nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
Huh? Are you suggesting that the correct way to score a fight is by watching each round twice, once for each fighter, counting punches landed? I do hope someone is pulling up judges in actual fights who don't have access to time machines and the like to be able to score correctly.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 03:20
by nick885
expe wrote:nick885 wrote:expe you havant commented on malinga saying hall punches harder than Santa Cruz.
You're yet to provide the evidence of him saying that and since we've proved that you've been lying on at least three occasions, I'm backing you to continue the streak.
THE quote from malinga was in the national news papers.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 03:23
by nick885
earsjohn wrote:nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
Huh? Are you suggesting that the correct way to score a fight is by watching each round twice, once for each fighter, counting punches landed? I do hope someone is pulling up judges in actual fights who don't have access to time machines and the like to be able to score correctly.
My suggestion is that you do it before you gob off on boxrec.
Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 03:25
by nick885
expe wrote:nick885 wrote:expe is that short for expired as in dead.
Does 885 refer to the number of brain cells you have?

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 03:29
by nick885
expe wrote:nick885 wrote:expe you havant commented on malinga saying hall punches harder than Santa Cruz.
You're yet to provide the evidence of him saying that and since we've proved that you've been lying on at least three occasions, I'm backing you to continue the streak.
No lies read the papers from that time. And you have proved nothing.

Re: Hall v Butler Undercard
Posted: 28 May 2014, 03:36
by earsjohn
nick885 wrote:earsjohn wrote:nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
Huh? Are you suggesting that the correct way to score a fight is by watching each round twice, once for each fighter, counting punches landed? I do hope someone is pulling up judges in actual fights who don't have access to time machines and the like to be able to score correctly.
My suggestion is that you do it before you gob off on boxrec.
But what relevance does your approach have in the actual scoring of a fight, you know the method by which a fight is actually scored and a result is actually derived? It's the equivalent of rescoring a football match by rewatching and counting corners.