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Stop me...Froch vs. Groves

Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:06
by jizzle
I'm thinking of putting a wedge down on a draw...

Someone stop me!! :box: :box:

Who's with me on this?

Re: Stop me...Froch vs. Groves

Posted: 27 May 2014, 16:20
by Monte Fisto
2nd round KO. Toss a coin. If it goes to points then there's a great chance of Groves getting robbed of a win and thus a potential draw. Stick it on son :box:

Re: Groves Sparring

Posted: 27 May 2014, 17:20
by Monte Fisto
Don't know, but he is opening rockys boxing gym in strood on Thursday night. Get down there and ask him around 6.30 to 7pm

:box:

Froch v groves outcomes.

Posted: 27 May 2014, 18:03
by hurlock
Please take the time to put down how you think the victor will win. You may be like me & be a genius who knows what the results will be to applied tactics

Re: Froch v groves outcomes.

Posted: 27 May 2014, 22:13
by davie
hurlock wrote:Please take the time to put down how you think the victor will win. You may be like me & be a genius who knows what the results will be to applied tactics
Groves will win mainly by punching his opponent

Re: Froch v groves outcomes.

Posted: 27 May 2014, 22:15
by davie
davie wrote:
hurlock wrote:Please take the time to put down how you think the victor will win. You may be like me & be a genius who knows what the results will be to applied tactics
Groves will win mainly by punching his opponent
More specifically, by punching his opponent exactly when and how he says he will in the build up to the fight

Re: Froch v groves outcomes.

Posted: 28 May 2014, 02:16
by delboy79
r u Groves' sister Davie?? u sound just like the obnoxious disrespectful idiot who is making himself look worse every interview he gives btw!!!

What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:02
by ILikeBeer
What will it mean for his career?

A lot of people are acting like Froch had zero chance of winning had it not been stopped, and that Groves is some kind of superman who only had a loss due to some fluke.

If he loses this fight, will this myth be exposed? Will people assume the first performance by Groves was the fluke, rather than the Froch win? Will he be able to get more big fights like this? Will he be still be able to use his name to fight journeymen and have Uncle Eddie pretend their real fights to make money?

Or will one result not have too much bearing on Groves' new found fame?

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:03
by SNG
I imagine he'll be in with Arthur Abraham after a confidence fight.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:08
by orbtastic
Largely down to his promoter as to what fights they make.

I'd imagine he'll be on some undercards in Germany.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:09
by ILikeBeer
orbtastic wrote:Largely down to his promoter as to what fights they make.

I'd imagine he'll be on some undercards in Germany.
Yeah, that was a somewhat surprising promotional change, wasn't it?

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:12
by orbtastic
Not necessarily.

He's changed promoters quite a bit since Hayemaker so he's kinda running low on options really.

I'd imagine it'll be GBP next, should he maintain his profile.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:13
by Broomhall
ILikeBeer wrote:What will it mean for his career?

A lot of people are acting like Froch had zero chance of winning had it not been stopped, and that Groves is some kind of superman who only had a loss due to some fluke.

If he loses this fight, will this myth be exposed? Will people assume the first performance by Groves was the fluke, rather than the Froch win? Will he be able to get more big fights like this? Will he be still be able to use his name to fight journeymen and have Uncle Eddie pretend their real fights to make money?

Or will one result not have too much bearing on Groves' new found fame?
I think history shows any fighter can overcome any loss-as a direct example look at Paul Smith-blown out by Groves could now be fighting for a world title. For what its worth, I think if you turned down the commentary on the last fight it gets a lost closer and I only had Groves a couple of points or so up at the end. Froch would have won the round the fight was stopped in, so on my card Groves one point up and exhausted going into the tenth.

Whatever happens Groves can either go onto bigger things if he wins or rebuild his career if he loses as he is still young. There is a big fight with Degale out there and a few other options.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:17
by ILikeBeer
Now you mention it, I noticed at the time that the after the knock-down the commentators were spunking themselves every time Groves landed, and blindly ignoring all of Froch's work. I wasn't scoring the fight myself, so can't tell you what happened other than I noticed it a bit through my beer stained vision. :lol:

That's not to say Groves wasn't winning, or the stoppage was justified. It just seems that the commentators like to decide who they want to win pre-fight, and then commentate on it appropriately.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 04:43
by whiskey
Groves is an entertaining fighter when the bell rings, so any losing result , as long as it's not a complete demotion loss, would see him afforded great opportunities in the future.

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 05:02
by dbf
G0mez wrote:Groves is an entertaining fighter when the bell rings, so any losing result , as long as it's not a complete demotion loss, would see him afforded great opportunities in the future.
Yep, spot on G. He can also shift a few tickets so people will happily fight him, if Carl doesn't ruin him (which I don't think will happen).

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 05:07
by thepocketrocket
G0mez wrote:Groves is an entertaining fighter when the bell rings, so any losing result , as long as it's not a complete demotion loss, would see him afforded great opportunities in the future.
Spot on

Re: What if George Groves loses?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 06:02
by gazza8
Undefeated streaks and losses affecting a fighters popularity are a purely British thing.

It won't make the first bit of difference as Groves style is entertaining and if he does lose, which I don't predict, his knockdown of Froch highlight will see him in big fights for years!

Didn't do Khan any harm after his spectacular losses!

When is the next Groves-Froch press conference?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 07:10
by big lennox
Is it today or tomorrow? Really excited about this fight.

Re: When is the next Groves-Froch press conference?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 07:11
by big lennox
Also, I have to give huge props to Froch. In 2013 he was involved in the two best fights of the year against Kessler and then Groves, and now he is boxing Groves again!!

Re: When is the next Groves-Froch press conference?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 07:12
by danconnollyeire
Press conference is tomorrow (I'm assuming lunchtime)

Re: When is the next Groves-Froch press conference?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 07:14
by big lennox
Thanks.

What happened to the Groves-Froch press conference topic?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 08:34
by big lennox
It looks like it has been deleted?

Re: What happened to the Groves-Froch press conference topic?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 09:36
by palooka
it might have been merged - there's a thread with all sorts of Froch v Groves stuff on.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=181386

Re: What happened to the Groves-Froch press conference topic?

Posted: 28 May 2014, 09:44
by big lennox
Cheers.