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Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 05:58
by Counter-puncher
orbtastic wrote: , and despite his chin, could be hurt. Curry had him wobbled and outboxed before landing that huge left hook .
i think mostly it was his offensive mindset/ not giving a fvck about getting hit back, that hunter-killer style he had in the Kronk era and/or at 154; he got wobbled/buzzed/hurt much less frequently under Futch and/or at 160, I'd say

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 06:10
by orbtastic
Counter-puncher wrote:
orbtastic wrote: , and despite his chin, could be hurt. Curry had him wobbled and outboxed before landing that huge left hook .
i think mostly it was his offensive mindset/ not giving a fvck about getting hit back, that hunter-killer style he had in the Kronk era and/or at 154; he got wobbled/buzzed/hurt much less frequently under Futch and/or at 160, I'd say
Yeah definitely, his output at 160+ is far more economical, slightly less energetic style too. Possibly how he had close fights with Kalambay and Graham but two things to consider - The first is that he was quite old by that point (he was considered potentially "past it" when fighting Watson, age being stated as his biggest chance of beating McCallum) and the second is that Kalamaby and Graham were excellent boxers with tricky styles, both based on not being physical.

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 06:40
by markinmidd
One of the best posts iv ever seen on any boxing forum,great insight and learnt so much,cheers :box:

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 07:23
by Old bones Ian
This is a good one of McCallum's, vs Said Skouma. It shows him a bit more agressive and takes a few more chances than later in his career. Gets caught by some big shots from Skouma , but again his chin is outstanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abmyf_-gFzw

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:25
by DIRT SUGAR
stevedoc wrote:i used to get told off for parring the jab away with my right hand ..
No it's a perfectly good defence. The trick is to not reach out too far to parry, or if you do make sure it's a good enough to unbalance the other guy so he can't follow it up. It takes time and confidence to perfect a good parry and not show it so you open yourself up to a left hook. McCallum's is a perfect example in this video (which is really interesting) as it prevents Watson getting off with anything else.

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:36
by Counter-puncher
as it happens i've always thought Watson was McCallum's best performance at the level of technique

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:37
by DIRT SUGAR
His two fights with Toney were very good too. Actually thought he won both.

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:38
by Counter-puncher
DIRT SUGAR wrote:His two fights with Toney were very good too. Actually thought he won both.
aye, the first especially was a great technical war on both sides- from memory there are 1/2 swing rounds which could have lead me to score 115-113/113/115 or 114-114

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:42
by DIRT SUGAR
When you see how Julian Jackson wreaked havoc after he lost to McCallum that was a great win. Only a round or so while it lasted but a total war with both guys really going for it. McCallum was brilliant that night too.

McCallum was the bollocks. Him and Azumah Nelson two of my favourites from the 80s. Didn't have the stardust sprinkled on them the way the likes of Leonard and co, but great fighters nonetheless.

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 09:52
by DIRT SUGAR
Counter-puncher wrote:
DIRT SUGAR wrote:His two fights with Toney were very good too. Actually thought he won both.
aye, the first especially was a great technical war on both sides- from memory there are 1/2 swing rounds which could have lead me to score 115-113/113/115 or 114-114
Yes it was one of those 'down to interpretation' and Toney's more solid shots seemed to sway the judges. I just thought McCallum was the better boxer in the first fight and outworked Toney and did the same in the rematch but could see why Toney won too. Plus, being a McCallum fan I was a tad biased.

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 10:08
by Counter-puncher
DIRT SUGAR wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
DIRT SUGAR wrote:His two fights with Toney were very good too. Actually thought he won both.
aye, the first especially was a great technical war on both sides- from memory there are 1/2 swing rounds which could have lead me to score 115-113/113/115 or 114-114
Yes it was one of those 'down to interpretation' and Toney's more solid shots seemed to sway the judges. I just thought McCallum was the better boxer in the first fight and outworked Toney and did the same in the rematch but could see why Toney won too. Plus, being a McCallum fan I was a tad biased.
ha, seconded on all counts :TU:

Re: McCallum - Watson - analysis video

Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 10:46
by dookus
Superb video and very useful analysis - thanks for posting