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Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 04:53
by zero
This is getting silly, Brook gets a lot of criticism, unjustly IMO he pulled out of fights big deal he isn’t the only fighter to do this. The kid can fight he's been calling out Amir for years and all we get is “Brook isn’t in my league” (prove it Amir?). Brook rematched Jones after a tough fight, Amir has never rematched anyone who has given him a fight. He just runs away. Kells worst enemy is himself. I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.

As for Porter I believe Kell will fight him will he win probably not.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 06:16
by Horse
zero wrote:Brook rematched Jones after a tough fight, Amir has never rematched anyone who has given him a fight. He just runs away. Kells worst enemy is himself. I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.
Brave Brook & cowardly Khan? Ridiculous.

Jones isn't a top level fighter, rematching him was not a brave move.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:01
by zero
Horse wrote:
zero wrote:Brook rematched Jones after a tough fight, Amir has never rematched anyone who has given him a fight. He just runs away. Kells worst enemy is himself. I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.
Brave Brook & cowardly Khan? Ridiculous.

Jones isn't a top level fighter, rematching him was not a brave move.
Either was Prescott?

Anything you post regarding Brook should be dismissed as bias bullshit, did he beat you up at school? Everyone wanted Khan to rematch Prescott, why not Garcia is it because he is "a top level fighter"?? The thought of Prescott still terrifies him.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:06
by BAP1
zero wrote:This is getting silly, Brook gets a lot of criticism, unjustly IMO he pulled out of fights big deal he isn’t the only fighter to do this. The kid can fight he's been calling out Amir for years and all we get is “Brook isn’t in my league” (prove it Amir?). Brook rematched Jones after a tough fight, Amir has never rematched anyone who has given him a fight. He just runs away. Kells worst enemy is himself. I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.

As for Porter I believe Kell will fight him will he win probably not.
"Big deal" "unjustly"

Really?

Do you know how it feels to lose money on a flight and tickets to see someone and they pull out time after time kell Brook and david Haye have done this repeatedly. They deserve the stick that they get!

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:09
by Horse
zero wrote:Either was Prescott?

Anything you post regarding Brook should be dismissed as bias bullshit, did he beat you up at school? Everyone wanted Khan to rematch Prescott, why not Garcia is it because he is "a top level fighter"?? The thought of Prescott still terrifies him.
Khan fights excellent competition, Brook fights chumps.

Khan deserves far more respect than a guy like Brook.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:18
by zero
BAP1 wrote:
zero wrote:This is getting silly, Brook gets a lot of criticism, unjustly IMO he pulled out of fights big deal he isn’t the only fighter to do this. The kid can fight he's been calling out Amir for years and all we get is “Brook isn’t in my league” (prove it Amir?). Brook rematched Jones after a tough fight, Amir has never rematched anyone who has given him a fight. He just runs away. Kells worst enemy is himself. I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.

As for Porter I believe Kell will fight him will he win probably not.
"Big deal" "unjustly"

Really?

Do you know how it feels to lose money on a flight and tickets to see someone and they pull out time after time kell Brook and david Haye have done this repeatedly. They deserve the stick that they get!
For all you know Brook pulled out with injuries? As posted before IMO it was his preparation. If I had bought tickets and a fighter pulled out I wouldn't buy them again. Especially, if you believe they are ducking fighters.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:21
by zero
Horse wrote:
zero wrote:Either was Prescott?

Anything you post regarding Brook should be dismissed as bias bullshit, did he beat you up at school? Everyone wanted Khan to rematch Prescott, why not Garcia is it because he is "a top level fighter"?? The thought of Prescott still terrifies him.
Khan fights excellent competition, Brook fights chumps.

Khan deserves far more respect than a guy like Brook.
Khan does deserve respect for what he has accomplished. Is he not interested in fighting Brook because you believe Brook is a chump?

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:21
by Pugilist-specialist
zero wrote: I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.
:doh: :doh:
Absolute nonsense.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:23
by zero
Pugilist-specialist wrote:
zero wrote: I think its time he really knuckled down with training because IMO his preparation were the reasons he pulled out.
:doh: :doh:
Absolute nonsense.
Glad you cleared that up for me :TU:

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:27
by Horse
zero wrote:Khan does deserve respect for what he has accomplished. Is he not interested in fighting Brook because you believe Brook is a chump?
Khan has bigger fish to fry than Brook.

Brook is not currently a worthy opponent for Khan.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:32
by Exoddus
I hope it happens. It needs to happen. Brook has fought pretty much nobody in the 32 fights he's had in 10 years. No one really knows how good Kell Brook actually is. The fight with Shawn Porter will answer a lot of question marks.

I think Porter beats Brook though if the fight does take place.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 07:46
by Pat Butcher
Hopefully it will.

Anyone on here going?

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 08:17
by zero
Exoddus wrote:I hope it happens. It needs to happen. Brook has fought pretty much nobody in the 32 fights he's had in 10 years. No one really knows how good Kell Brook actually is. The fight with Shawn Porter will answer a lot of question marks.

I think Porter beats Brook though if the fight does take place.
It certainly will and it probably couldn’t have been much harder TBH. IF Brook does pull it off it's great win unfortunately for Kell, I think he gets stopped.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 03:54
by TJ77
Rainford congratulations on another great thread.
Clearly the overall consensus from most posters on the forum is good luck Kell you have your chance go and let's see what you've got.
So you think how can I mask a negative thread that goes against the general flow of thought and gives me and my band of like minded geniuses a platform to repeat all our nonsense.
And you came up with a 5 word question ... inspired.
The fact you managed to not include the word Murray is to be applauded well done mate.
Ali keep necking the buckfast and embellishing the forum with your ill informed rammel.
Horse your a donkey... blah blah Khans great blah blah Brooks a bottle job blah blah.
Whatever transpires expect the "Love boxing Hate Brook" campaign to twist the facts to suit their agenda.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 12:10
by ALI
TJ77 wrote:Rainford congratulations on another great thread.
Clearly the overall consensus from most posters on the forum is good luck Kell you have your chance go and let's see what you've got.
So you think how can I mask a negative thread that goes against the general flow of thought and gives me and my band of like minded geniuses a platform to repeat all our nonsense.
And you came up with a 5 word question ... inspired.
The fact you managed to not include the word Murray is to be applauded well done mate.
Ali keep necking the buckfast and embellishing the forum with your ill informed rammel.
Horse your a donkey... blah blah Khans great blah blah Brooks a bottle job blah blah.
Whatever transpires expect the "Love boxing Hate Brook" campaign to twist the facts to suit their agenda.
This may come as a surprise to you, given your blinkered vision and one dimensional view of the world, but i sincerally hope Brook does a job on Porter - i would also be extremely pleased if he went on to dominate the division, move up in wight and dominate there as well.

I doubt any of that will happen, sorry if that dissapoints you. It does not mean i am anti Brook.

The facts remain, he has fought several eliminators, has had chances to fight Alexander and Bradley but for whatever reasons those fights never happened. I sincerally hope he turns up against Porter, if not his credability willbe shot, and rightly so.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 17:59
by TJ77
ALI wrote:
TJ77 wrote:Rainford congratulations on another great thread.
Clearly the overall consensus from most posters on the forum is good luck Kell you have your chance go and let's see what you've got.
So you think how can I mask a negative thread that goes against the general flow of thought and gives me and my band of like minded geniuses a platform to repeat all our nonsense.
And you came up with a 5 word question ... inspired.
The fact you managed to not include the word Murray is to be applauded well done mate.
Ali keep necking the buckfast and embellishing the forum with your ill informed rammel.
Horse your a donkey... blah blah Khans great blah blah Brooks a bottle job blah blah.
Whatever transpires expect the "Love boxing Hate Brook" campaign to twist the facts to suit their agenda.
This may come as a surprise to you, given your blinkered vision and one dimensional view of the world, but i sincerally hope Brook does a job on Porter - i would also be extremely pleased if he went on to dominate the division, move up in wight and dominate there as well.

I doubt any of that will happen, sorry if that dissapoints you. It does not mean i am anti Brook.

The facts remain, he has fought several eliminators, has had chances to fight Alexander and Bradley but for whatever reasons those fights never happened. I sincerally hope he turns up against Porter, if not his credability willbe shot, and rightly so.
I'm not a mind reader I can only go on every post concerning Brook you have ever posted.
Not one has ever been encouraging or supportive of Brook.
Perhaps it's your humour but if it's all you put out there then don't be shocked when it's what people think is your stance.Every chance you get you dig him out and now you say you'd love him to win and have done all along .
Well I don't believe you frankly.
As for being blinkered I have been a consistent supporter who has had to defend my opinion that's based on the facts and trust me I am quite well informed on those facts.Against a year on year barrage of ill informed nonsense presented as facts.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 18:00
by TJ77
ALI wrote:
TJ77 wrote:Rainford congratulations on another great thread.
Clearly the overall consensus from most posters on the forum is good luck Kell you have your chance go and let's see what you've got.
So you think how can I mask a negative thread that goes against the general flow of thought and gives me and my band of like minded geniuses a platform to repeat all our nonsense.
And you came up with a 5 word question ... inspired.
The fact you managed to not include the word Murray is to be applauded well done mate.
Ali keep necking the buckfast and embellishing the forum with your ill informed rammel.
Horse your a donkey... blah blah Khans great blah blah Brooks a bottle job blah blah.
Whatever transpires expect the "Love boxing Hate Brook" campaign to twist the facts to suit their agenda.
This may come as a surprise to you, given your blinkered vision and one dimensional view of the world, but i sincerally hope Brook does a job on Porter - i would also be extremely pleased if he went on to dominate the division, move up in wight and dominate there as well.

I doubt any of that will happen, sorry if that dissapoints you. It does not mean i am anti Brook.

The facts remain, he has fought several eliminators, has had chances to fight Alexander and Bradley but for whatever reasons those fights never happened. I sincerally hope he turns up against Porter, if not his credability willbe shot, and rightly so.
I'm not a mind reader I can only go on every post concerning Brook you have ever posted.
Not one has ever been encouraging or supportive of Brook.
Perhaps it's your humour but if it's all you put out there then don't be shocked when it's what people think is your stance.Every chance you get you dig him out and now you say you'd love him to win and have done all along .
Well I don't believe you frankly.
As for being blinkered I have been a consistent supporter who has had to defend my opinion that's based on the facts and trust me I am quite well informed on those facts.Against a year on year barrage of ill informed nonsense presented as facts.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 19:45
by ALI
TJ77 wrote:
ALI wrote:
TJ77 wrote:Rainford congratulations on another great thread.
Clearly the overall consensus from most posters on the forum is good luck Kell you have your chance go and let's see what you've got.
So you think how can I mask a negative thread that goes against the general flow of thought and gives me and my band of like minded geniuses a platform to repeat all our nonsense.
And you came up with a 5 word question ... inspired.
The fact you managed to not include the word Murray is to be applauded well done mate.
Ali keep necking the buckfast and embellishing the forum with your ill informed rammel.
Horse your a donkey... blah blah Khans great blah blah Brooks a bottle job blah blah.
Whatever transpires expect the "Love boxing Hate Brook" campaign to twist the facts to suit their agenda.
This may come as a surprise to you, given your blinkered vision and one dimensional view of the world, but i sincerally hope Brook does a job on Porter - i would also be extremely pleased if he went on to dominate the division, move up in wight and dominate there as well.

I doubt any of that will happen, sorry if that dissapoints you. It does not mean i am anti Brook.

The facts remain, he has fought several eliminators, has had chances to fight Alexander and Bradley but for whatever reasons those fights never happened. I sincerally hope he turns up against Porter, if not his credability willbe shot, and rightly so.
I'm not a mind reader I can only go on every post concerning Brook you have ever posted.
Not one has ever been encouraging or supportive of Brook.
Perhaps it's your humour but if it's all you put out there then don't be shocked when it's what people think is your stance.Every chance you get you dig him out and now you say you'd love him to win and have done all along .
Well I don't believe you frankly.
As for being blinkered I have been a consistent supporter who has had to defend my opinion that's based on the facts and trust me I am quite well informed on those facts.Against a year on year barrage of ill informed nonsense presented as facts.
Ok, fair point, i can see how it may appear that way. I wont go back and check my posts on Brook, but from memory i think you will find my only issue with him is due to his ponderous career. He is a talented boxer with lots of potential, but as the saying goes - stop talking the talk.....

Although i would like to see Brook do well at world level, i will be rooting for him against Porter, i dont think he can cut it at the very top, i think he will prove to be effective on the fringes of world level, but not at the very top. I hope he proves me wrong.

I've not seen enough of Porter yet to make a prediction on the fight. There is a lot of hype around Porter right now, i will reserve judgement until i've had a chance to watch a a bit more of him in action.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 17 Jun 2014, 08:20
by TJ77
http://t.co/I8zG3X5BuV My feature on Kell Brook for THE RING, talks Porter @gallaghersgym @Spencer_Fearon @JamieMoore777 @PaulSmithJnr
Above an interview with Kell he is well up for this fight.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2014, 11:06
by lefty
TJ77 wrote:http://t.co/I8zG3X5BuV My feature on Kell Brook for THE RING, talks Porter @gallaghersgym @Spencer_Fearon @JamieMoore777 @PaulSmithJnr
Above an interview with Kell he is well up for this fight.
So you're Tom Gray? I've read a lot of your articles before if so. Didnt expect that!

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2014, 12:26
by DMA1987
columbo wrote:
TJ77 wrote:http://t.co/I8zG3X5BuV My feature on Kell Brook for THE RING, talks Porter @gallaghersgym @Spencer_Fearon @JamieMoore777 @PaulSmithJnr
Above an interview with Kell he is well up for this fight.
So you're Tom Gray? I've read a lot of your articles before if so. Didnt expect that!
I think that's just the entire tweet copied by TJ from Tom Grays original.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2014, 12:57
by Parson Cross
TJ isn't Tom Gray.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2014, 18:09
by TJ77
Columbo I'm on holiday but your being silly and I'm sunburned and a bit down following England match.
I was taking Parsons advice and stepping back from these repetitive threads where people change sides when their nonsense theories run out of steam.
No in not Tom Gray you melt some detective you are :lol:
Yes thanks DMA I had just copied and pasted :TU:
He knew that probably just didn't like a positive article that challenges the Kells scared of his shadow, doesn't fancy it ,gonna be a bunny in the headlights,stance many have taken.
Porter does an interview you start a thread.
I post one from Kell you comment on the author.
I post under an alias of my intials and yr of birth cos I was pretty lazy and unimaginative when I signed up nothing criptic not that there is owt wrong with being incognito.
I post honestly and would argue my point fairly with anyone anywhere when I've crossed the line usually when I've posted in drink I have apologized including to you.
It's your right to do and say what you want how you want but it makes for better discussion if you say what you truly feel and if that changes explain why IMO
Not chip in with little digs and then deny them when challenged IMO.
I'm out save to say C'mon Kell give England something to smile about.

Re: Will porter versus brook happen ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2014, 20:13
by lefty
:lol: