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Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 18:23
by gilgamesh
Final round wrote:
Datsue.
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Datsue's post in this thread said all that needed to be said.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 18:24
by Taansend
housesecond wrote:Boxing fans are a pretty strange bunch. Moan when someone's in a tough fight, moan when someone's in an easy fight.
I don't think the OP is a boxing fan. More of a fisherman than anything else ;;-)
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 18:29
by MightyWarrior
gilgamesh wrote:Final round wrote:
Datsue.
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Datsue's post in this thread said all that needed to be said.
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Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 03:47
by ste1983
I don't mind what Hearns doing for his fighters as much if the fighters want to go over there knowing theyve really not got a chance (and thats why he's not shelled out to get the fight in the UK) then thats upto them.
I do wish Sky and Matchroom would stop trying to con people intpo thinking fighters like Purdy, Rose etc are World Level fighters because theyve won some dodgy 'eliminator' or bull shit belt against a 'ranked' fighter.
I like Rose a lot seems like a top lad but he's not even the best light middle in this country let alone world level.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 08:33
by Parson Cross
Columbo,
If Rose fought Rabchenko he would get beaten solidly.
Sergai bangs hard to the body.
He would stop Brian.
If I were handling Brian and assuming he wants to carry on I'd drop him back to domestic level regroup and come again.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 08:43
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:Columbo,
If Rose fought Rabchenko he would get beaten solidly.
Sergai bangs hard to the body.
He would stop Brian.
If I were handling Brian and assuming he wants to carry on I'd drop him back to domestic level regroup and come again.
Would be a quality fight though. From Brian's perspective though, yeah cant argue with that.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 09:38
by Bohrsy
Rose is 29-years-old. He's as good as he will ever be and to be honest he's done well to get a world title shot. Everyone, including Hearn, knew Rose was a big underdog but sometimes you have to take your chance when it's there.
He fought for a world title in New York! Unfortunately he would never have beaten Andrade because Andrade is just a class above. All respect to Brian Rose for earning his shot by beating Maciel and then giving it a go. I'm sure he will be back and hopefully will get a big fight in front of his fans in Blackpool.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 09:41
by Black Sam Bellamy
That fight, and the manner of Rose's beating could mean the end of his career. I hope he was well compensated.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 11:48
by Bard of Boxrec
domjon wrote:No amount of building up would have won rose that fight last night, nor Purdy nor Rees. Just not good enough at the end of the day but they wanted a crack at world level so Hearn has done his job getting them the fights. What's the alternative? Keep fighting at British standard for years and hope to get an aging or weak beltholder over one day so you can call yourself world champion?
If anything nights like last night could be good for British boxing in the long run if they show how far behind we are and motivate people to raise the bar.
Indeed. I'm always mystified by posts like the OP's, and they crop up pretty often. It's almost like they're saying any fighter can beat world class guys as long as they are 'ready'.
I'm sure there are still people who think Cleverly didn't beat Kovalev because Nathan's level of opposition wasn't good enough to 'prepare' him.
Baffling.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 12:13
by Boxing Prospect
Riddick Blowe wrote:domjon wrote:No amount of building up would have won rose that fight last night, nor Purdy nor Rees. Just not good enough at the end of the day but they wanted a crack at world level so Hearn has done his job getting them the fights. What's the alternative? Keep fighting at British standard for years and hope to get an aging or weak beltholder over one day so you can call yourself world champion?
If anything nights like last night could be good for British boxing in the long run if they show how far behind we are and motivate people to raise the bar.
Indeed. I'm always mystified by posts like the OP's, and they crop up pretty often. It's almost like they're saying any fighter can beat world class guys as long as they are 'ready'.
I'm sure there are still people who think Cleverly didn't beat Kovalev because Nathan's level of opposition wasn't good enough to 'prepare' him.
Baffling.
Agree with pretty much all of this. Sure some fighters can develop a lot but, just as you will never polish a turd and get a diamond, you cannot prepare a fighter for something they simply cannot ever be ready for.
Re: Hearn sending fighters abroad unprepared
Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 12:22
by bripez
We live in a world where all footballers are "legends" and all boxers think that they are "world class" (you only have to see the response on this site if somebody refers to a boxer as British level / domestic class as it is taken as some kind of insult !) when in reality they are not.
There are very few legends at any sport.
Very few boxers can be referred to as World Class.