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[quote="Boxerbeetle123"]I thought it was a very dull, 'by the numbers' performance which is fast becoming Murray's trademark.

I don't really know why some people rate Murray so highly, he hasn't beaten a single quality fighter, and his performances against Sturm & Martinez now look much worse than they did at the time given both champions have since lost their titles in one-sided fights.[/quote]

I agree beetle Murray shows little innovation or thought in his boxing; he does seem to do it by the numbers - very little flow to him.

columbo wrote:

matko wrote:Some comments on here are deluded

Martin beat a former European champion who is really 1 loss against former champion and people say he wanted a payday. Did no 1 notice that martin was too sharp, strong and 1 step ahead? He controlled everything and didn't let Bursak into it and hurt him numerous occasions. Even Bursak and camp admitted he is a different level, Bursak was very durable and is a real gatekeeper of the division

He lost against jarrod fletcher

Did u watch the fight? He lost 4 points had he not he would of won, even with the 4 points off it was still a close bout which he took on short notice.

Ppl are talking about Murray holding, a lot of the time it was Max who stated "He is world class and very good fighter" after the bout. When Bursak did hold Martin showed great inside and clinch work this may look unimpressive to an uneducated eye but someone who knows boxing can see some of the things he does takes skills and training.

Bursak only lost 2 points against Fletcher, meaning he still would've lost by MD even with those points.

matko wrote:

columbo wrote:

matko wrote:Some comments on here are deluded

Martin beat a former European champion who is really 1 loss against former champion and people say he wanted a payday. Did no 1 notice that martin was too sharp, strong and 1 step ahead? He controlled everything and didn't let Bursak into it and hurt him numerous occasions. Even Bursak and camp admitted he is a different level, Bursak was very durable and is a real gatekeeper of the division

He lost against jarrod fletcher

Did u watch the fight? He lost 4 points had he not he would of won, even with the 4 points off it was still a close bout which he took on short notice.

Ppl are talking about Murray holding, a lot of the time it was Max who stated "He is world class and very good fighter" after the bout. When Bursak did hold Martin showed great inside and clinch work this may look unimpressive to an uneducated eye but someone who knows boxing can see some of the things he does takes skills and training.

Sorry not sure why I said 4 points I meant 2