Clev v Bellew II is on

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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Boxerbeetle123 wrote:Fair play to Cleverly if it does take place in Liverpool, that'll be twice he's agreed to fight Bellew in his hometown.

Hope Cleverly does a number on him, I used to like Bellew but his constant OTT pre-fight antics, his ridiculous exaggeration of his own abilities & his recent distasteful comments to Boxing Monthly about Clev have left me wanting to see him get smashed.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Any update on this date and venue's being rumoured ?
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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And the crowd goes mild!
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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bripez wrote:
Roars Like Me wrote: I know Tony is hot headed but if the reason he went off is because Clev denies the fact that he was in his toughest fight in their 1st one then back trakced then why wouldn't you lose it?
The presser where Bellew jumped up, called Cleverley a fookin rat and offered to fight him in the car park was before their fight.

And because he was beaten in his own back yard, Bellew is somehow trying to excuse his behaviour by blaming it on Cleverley because he won, didn't give him an immediate rematch and has not publically declared that Bellew gave him his toughest fight.

Yep, seems reasonable to me ....... :bag:
I was at the presser and the reason Bellew lost it was Clev's father at the back of the hall giving clev the cut throat sign and waving his hand up and down like he was polishing a pole ;-) when bellew kicked off clevs brother shit his pants and phoned the police lolol
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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smiling assassin wrote:Couldnt care less who wins. Meaningless fight in my opinion, neither will do anything of real note in the division. Like both fighters but Clev has not looked good at CW and we will not here the end of how good Bellew is if he wins(only from his mouth though)
I think if you take this view 99% of fights that happen anywhere in the world at any time are meaningless as the majority of active fighters will never get a world ranking or even get above an area title-but how many great fights are you going to see that will have no impact on the division?

Look at Bob Ajisafe v Dickinson, what a great fight, but apply to your criteria it becomes meaningless as (no disrespect) probably neither Ajisafe or Dickenson are going to give the likes of Kovalev too many sleepless nights.

Last fight was good, so signs are this one should be and really surely the main thing is entertainment-both are good talkers with the ability to wind each other and Joe public up-which all adds to the mix.

I thought Bellew was a bit unlucky tbh last time.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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tony1234 wrote:Will a meaningless title be up for grabs ?
world title elim maybe? there's enough titles out there.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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It'll be a good scrap but I can't be added with all the smack talk beforehand. Belles admitted that it was all to build interest in a bout. Both are good boxers and seem sound (Belles goes bananas before a bout); neither would beat any of the champions or Afolabi.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Broomhall wrote:
smiling assassin wrote:Couldnt care less who wins. Meaningless fight in my opinion, neither will do anything of real note in the division. Like both fighters but Clev has not looked good at CW and we will not here the end of how good Bellew is if he wins(only from his mouth though)
I think if you take this view 99% of fights that happen anywhere in the world at any time are meaningless as the majority of active fighters will never get a world ranking or even get above an area title-but how many great fights are you going to see that will have no impact on the division?

Look at Bob Ajisafe v Dickinson, what a great fight, but apply to your criteria it becomes meaningless as (no disrespect) probably neither Ajisafe or Dickenson are going to give the likes of Kovalev too many sleepless nights.

Last fight was good, so signs are this one should be and really surely the main thing is entertainment-both are good talkers with the ability to wind each other and Joe public up-which all adds to the mix.

I thought Bellew was a bit unlucky tbh last time.
I didnt really put my point across properly mate. I meant meaningless in the sense that one of these 2 will probably get a world title shot off the back of this (which neither deserve as they have done nothing at CW) and go on to lose. I didnt mean meaningless in the sense that its not a title fight. I know there are some great scraps on small hall shows with no titles on the line in my view some of em are the best ones
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palooka wrote:It'll be a good scrap but I can't be added with all the smack talk beforehand. Belles admitted that it was all to build interest in a bout. Both are good boxers and seem sound (Belles goes bananas before a bout); neither would beat any of the champions or Afolabi.
some of the champs seem on their last legs, despite being battle hardened. just look at these fighters arslan has been making look vulnerable - huck, 1st fight; hernandez - I recall arslan being outclassed by Guillermo jones & he never struck me as a world beater or a threat to any holder of a world title.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Broomhall wrote:I thought Bellew was a bit unlucky tbh last time.
As in unlucky not to get the decision? I don't see that at all.

The best fair case for Tony would've been a draw in my view.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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crusader wrote:
Broomhall wrote:I thought Bellew was a bit unlucky tbh last time.
As in unlucky not to get the decision? I don't see that at all.

The best fair case for Tony would've been a draw in my view.
Fair enough, I know I am min the minority, but I watched it a couple of times and each time I made Bellew the winner by a couple of rounds. I thought Cleverly did a lot of posing and showboating but Bellew scored the clearer shots.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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I wonder what excuses Bellew will make when he loses this one.

Can't blame the promoter or the weight can he? He's the biggest moaner in Boxing.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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The first fight was fairly decent & I think the rematch will be better!!! It doesn't matter about straps when you've got a great fight like this
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Autobarn wrote:just look at these fighters arslan has been making look vulnerable - huck, 1st fight; hernandez - I recall arslan being outclassed by Guillermo jones & he never struck me as a world beater or a threat to any holder of a world title.
I'd think Arslan would be a very tough nights work for either Clev or Bellew even at 43 years old.

I'll watch the fight between Clev and Bellew but lets not beat about the bush that either is a world beater.
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Bellew by knockout here, sadly. I think he might have too much power for a potentially chinny Cleverley at this higher weight. But like many on here I'm not impressed with the pre-fight antics where he takes on another persona in an attempt to shift a few extra tickets; he'll never convince me to buy one.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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righthook wrote:
bripez wrote:
Roars Like Me wrote: I know Tony is hot headed but if the reason he went off is because Clev denies the fact that he was in his toughest fight in their 1st one then back trakced then why wouldn't you lose it?
The presser where Bellew jumped up, called Cleverley a fookin rat and offered to fight him in the car park was before their fight.

And because he was beaten in his own back yard, Bellew is somehow trying to excuse his behaviour by blaming it on Cleverley because he won, didn't give him an immediate rematch and has not publically declared that Bellew gave him his toughest fight.

Yep, seems reasonable to me ....... :bag:
Let me just correct you there bripez

It was Cleverly who offered bellew a street fight in the car park not the other way round!!!!!!

Cleverly says il take you in the car park and bellew replies well do it now you fu***** rat.

Also i will correct you on another issue, Bellew dislikes Cleverly anyway but one of the main reasons (as bellew has said in an interview) is because cleverly spoke to him after the fight and said your the toughest fight iv ever had and his own father said the same to Bellew, then when bellew wasnt at the post fight interview Cleverly and his dad said oh we didnt get out of second gear in this fight. Everything i have said in the statement above is 100% fact!

So now i ask you this, is cleverly not as bad as bellew if not worst offering to take some one into the car park for a street fight?

They dont get on and never will but lets not jump on the band wagon and make crap up when you have no idea what really happened. Next time i suggest listening and researching what actually happened instead of coming on here and sounding like an idiot who hasnt got a clue about what they are talking about.

For me i hope bellew puts him fast asleep and i for one cant wait for the fight.

BOMBS AWAY :bag:

Hello bellew
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Bellew wins by devastatingly gobshiting Clev at the press conference, unfortunately the fight turns out to be a dire bore draw, still Tony got one up on him!
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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According to Clev's twitter, Bellew has bottled it and won't fight.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Very interesting if true. I wonder what Eddie will have to say if thats the case.
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CARLING wrote:According to Clev's twitter, Bellew has bottled it and won't fight.
Hmm interesting.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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columbo wrote:
CARLING wrote:According to Clev's twitter, Bellew has bottled it and won't fight.
Hmm interesting.
Cleverly tweeted he'd bottled it but made a point of Tony sayi ng 'I'd fight him anywhere', am I reading too much into this or could that hint at the location being a sticking point for Tony. It was almost certain Liverpool but then came the Sheffield rumours? I'm sure Tony would prefer (and it would be better for his career) for it to headline in Liverpool rather than be on the undercard of Brook in Sheffield.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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ste1983 wrote:
columbo wrote:
CARLING wrote:According to Clev's twitter, Bellew has bottled it and won't fight.
Hmm interesting.
Cleverly tweeted he'd bottled it but made a point of Tony sayi ng 'I'd fight him anywhere', am I reading too much into this or could that hint at the location being a sticking point for Tony. It was almost certain Liverpool but then came the Sheffield rumours? I'm sure Tony would prefer (and it would be better for his career) for it to headline in Liverpool rather than be on the undercard of Brook in Sheffield.
Thought that as well, don't think there's much chance of Liverpool though, looks like they're putting everything into a big show in Sheffield, probably on PPV. I don't think they have anything available to put it on in Liverpool, so unless Tony fancies making a complete arse of himself(wouldn't be the first time), he's going to have to fight him elsewhere.
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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Agree he should just get on with it now (and think he will to be fair).

Seems wasted to me though in Sheffield but Hearn seems adament on milking the pay per view train again with a bog standard Brook 1st defence so if thats to be then yeah it better include Bellew/Cleverly
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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I think Sheffield is good myself in terms of a neutral venue and all that. Not really fair oh cleverly having to fight Bellew twice in Liverpool I don't think
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Re: Clev v Bellew II is on

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I'm pretty sure Bellew is just going to want to be paid the right amount if it's not going to be a bill topper and it's going to be on a ppv event in Sheffield.
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