7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme
Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...punchoutsb wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.
Quoted by me? You have that messed up. I don't constantly piss and moan about Wilder's competition like most here and in the boxing media.eastezrider wrote:7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme
Kinda like the weigh in's were 1p West Coast not East Coast... not that I know any one that expected them to be 1p East Coast...
Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...Badhusker wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.
jes... my bad... corrected... my profound apologiesBadhusker wrote:Quoted by me? You have that messed up. I don't constantly piss and moan about Wilder's competition like most here and in the boxing media.eastezrider wrote:7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme
Kinda like the weigh in's were 1p West Coast not East Coast... not that I know any one that expected them to be 1p East Coast...
Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...punchoutsb wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.
diddy wrote:James Toney lost to this guy.
My God.
Hard to believe a 45-year-old who hasn't beaten a top 250 opponent since 2008 could possibly lose a 3-rounder by MD against a then #145-ranked fighter after having already fought someone else earlier that night.edeescam1 wrote:Guy is fat and bad. how did Toney lose to this dude?
Toney won at least 2 rounds in my opinion! No way did he lose the fight. I think the judges were falling for the showboating Gavern was doing opposed to scoring clean landed punches. Also remember that James was in pretty good shape weighting somewhere around 217 pounds. The man warriored for 11 rounds with a fractured knee cap against Lebedev and was never in trouble and the opponent still couldn't touch him. RESPECT! Watched the fight live and immediately saw that something was wrong with the legend. Man it gives me a little bit shivers seeing Toney warrioring in the ropes shortly after getting injured. The knee must have hurt him bad but he doesn't QUIT!!!What a warrior!diddy wrote:James Toney lost to this guy.
My God.
Thot I spotted Richard Schaefer up in the shitty seats... well... ok... noone attending fight then...Tarkus wrote:So here we have big, exciting, AMERICAN heavyweight. And here we have noone attending the fight. Is not Wilder what HW boxing needed.
You mean this guy? https://twitter.com/MartinMulcahey/stat ... 48/photo/1eastezrider wrote:Thot I spotted Richard Schaefer up in the shitty seats... well... ok... noone attending fight then...Tarkus wrote:So here we have big, exciting, AMERICAN heavyweight. And here we have noone attending the fight. Is not Wilder what HW boxing needed.
It would be foolish to take on a top 20 guy while waiting for a title shot a few months away. If Stiverne vacates instead of fighting Wilder, I would love to see it.greenhornet wrote:why didn't they offer the fight to ustinov? he was ready. willing, and able to take on fury. scared him into bs excuses. if wilderhad fought him and won, he would have made a statement.
I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.
well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.Lackeos wrote:I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.
dominik wrote:well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.Lackeos wrote:I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.
I have often criticized wilders team for his matchmaking and it might be his downfall if he faces a serious contender but at this point it is a smart decision.
Because that would be stupid? Because he has a title shot lined up already for his next fight?greenhornet wrote:why didn't they offer the fight to ustinov? he was ready. willing, and able to take on fury. scared him into bs excuses. if wilderhad fought him and won, he would have made a statement.
I'm talking about fighters who have a combination of durability, skill, survival skills that can take Wilder deep without necessarily presenting a major risk, like Fres Oquendo.dominik wrote:well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.Lackeos wrote:I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.
I have often criticized wilders team for his matchmaking and it might be his downfall if he faces a serious contender but at this point it is a smart decision.
^ Too dumb to realize that there are fighters outside the top 20 who are capable of lasting 5 rounds with Wilder.Badhusker wrote:Exactly. Wilder came into the pros with very little amateur experience. Probably had 50 or 60 fights in the amateurs. Some of the dumb fucks on this site think he should be thrown in with top 20's right away. They are bringing Wilder up at the right pace despite the frustration of uneducated fans. Watch how everyone jumps on his bandwagon when he becomes champ. I would never argue that his competition has been great,. but good boxers can be ruined by that too. I think he is more than hype, and in a year or two many will agree.
