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stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme

7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...

Kinda like the weigh in's were 1p West Coast not East Coast... not that I know any one that expected them to be 1p East Coast...

punchoutsb wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.

Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...

I think the evens bet is inside 4 minutes v outside 4 minutes. I have been looking for a place to bet. I think KO 1.

eastezrider wrote:

stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme

7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...

Kinda like the weigh in's were 1p West Coast not East Coast... not that I know any one that expected them to be 1p East Coast...

Badhusker wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.

Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...

Quoted by me? You have that messed up. I don't constantly piss and moan about Wilder's competition like most here and in the boxing media.

Circa how many hours/minutes till this fight begins?

Zelenoff put up a better fight

James Toney lost to this guy.

My God.

Gavern quit on stool after fourth round.

How long until Wilder vs. Gavern?

Guy is fat and bad. how did Toney lose to this dude?

So here we have big, exciting, AMERICAN heavyweight. And here we have noone attending the fight. Is not Wilder what HW boxing needed.

Badhusker wrote:

eastezrider wrote:

stevekrazy wrote:Wilder will be shown at 7 on showtime extreme

7p East Coast... 4p West Coast...

Kinda like the weigh in's were 1p West Coast not East Coast... not that I know any one that expected them to be 1p East Coast...

punchoutsb wrote:Dan Rafael finally got something right: It's not necessarily this stay busy fight that sucks...it's his previous 30 some stay busy fights.

Dan who? oh... Fat Dan... yeah... give me @MichelleJoyPhelps any day...

Quoted by me? You have that messed up. I don't constantly piss and moan about Wilder's competition like most here and in the boxing media.

jes... my bad... corrected... my profound apologies

diddy wrote:James Toney lost to this guy.

My God.

edeescam1 wrote:Guy is fat and bad. how did Toney lose to this dude?

Hard to believe a 45-year-old who hasn't beaten a top 250 opponent since 2008 could possibly lose a 3-rounder by MD against a then #145-ranked fighter after having already fought someone else earlier that night.

diddy wrote:James Toney lost to this guy.

My God.

Toney won at least 2 rounds in my opinion! No way did he lose the fight. I think the judges were falling for the showboating Gavern was doing opposed to scoring clean landed punches. Also remember that James was in pretty good shape weighting somewhere around 217 pounds. The man warriored for 11 rounds with a fractured knee cap against Lebedev and was never in trouble and the opponent still couldn't touch him. RESPECT! Watched the fight live and immediately saw that something was wrong with the legend. Man it gives me a little bit shivers seeing Toney warrioring in the ropes shortly after getting injured. The knee must have hurt him bad but he doesn't QUIT!!!What a warrior!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGStbjShzZU

Tarkus wrote:So here we have big, exciting, AMERICAN heavyweight. And here we have noone attending the fight. Is not Wilder what HW boxing needed.

Thot I spotted Richard Schaefer up in the shitty seats... well... ok... noone attending fight then...

why didn't they offer the fight to ustinov? he was ready. willing, and able to take on fury. scared him into bs excuses. if wilderhad fought him and won, he would have made a statement.

Wasn't Gavern the one on here that was quoted complaining about not getting big enough offers to fight from local promoters?! SMH.

eastezrider wrote:

Tarkus wrote:So here we have big, exciting, AMERICAN heavyweight. And here we have noone attending the fight. Is not Wilder what HW boxing needed.

Thot I spotted Richard Schaefer up in the shitty seats... well... ok... noone attending fight then...

You mean this guy? https://twitter.com/MartinMulcahey/stat ... 48/photo/1

greenhornet wrote:why didn't they offer the fight to ustinov? he was ready. willing, and able to take on fury. scared him into bs excuses. if wilderhad fought him and won, he would have made a statement.

It would be foolish to take on a top 20 guy while waiting for a title shot a few months away. If Stiverne vacates instead of fighting Wilder, I would love to see it.

I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.

dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.

I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.

No surprise if Wilder fights Kimbo Slice next.

Lackeos wrote:

dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.

I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.

well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.

I have often criticized wilders team for his matchmaking and it might be his downfall if he faces a serious contender but at this point it is a smart decision.

dominik wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.

I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.

well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.

I have often criticized wilders team for his matchmaking and it might be his downfall if he faces a serious contender but at this point it is a smart decision.

Exactly. Wilder came into the pros with very little amateur experience. Probably had 50 or 60 fights in the amateurs. Some of the dumb fucks on this site think he should be thrown in with top 20's right away. They are bringing Wilder up at the right pace despite the frustration of uneducated fans. Watch how everyone jumps on his bandwagon when he becomes champ. I would never argue that his competition has been great,. but good boxers can be ruined by that too. I think he is more than hype, and in a year or two many will agree.

greenhornet wrote:why didn't they offer the fight to ustinov? he was ready. willing, and able to take on fury. scared him into bs excuses. if wilderhad fought him and won, he would have made a statement.

Because that would be stupid? Because he has a title shot lined up already for his next fight?

Rocket science?

dominik wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

dominik wrote:I have not seen the fight yet but maybe wilder did hold back to get some easy sparring rounds? I could imagine that his team told him that it makes no sense to blow out bums in one minute because he learns nothing from that.

I'm not sure how much you learn from holding back against bums either. He really needs to be sharing the ring with someone who can go rounds without the need for Wilder to hold back.

well it was a stay busy fight. he already is the mandatory and would be stupid to take a risk.

I have often criticized wilders team for his matchmaking and it might be his downfall if he faces a serious contender but at this point it is a smart decision.

I'm talking about fighters who have a combination of durability, skill, survival skills that can take Wilder deep without necessarily presenting a major risk, like Fres Oquendo.

On the other hand, there's too many people acting like Wilder can't risk fighting a good opponent like Povetkin or Jennings when he's so close to getting Stiverne. There's not a damned difference between any of those fighters. It's not like he gets paid $8 million to fight Stiverne and $50,000 to fight Povetkin. It's not like Kell Brook, who would make $4 million for fighting Mayweather or $300k for fighting Thurman. If he fights Stiverne or fights another top 10 heavyweight, it's the same everything either way; the only difference is the worthless WBC belt that nobody respects. If anything, the WBC trinket costs him more money because he'd have to pay sanctioning fees. Fury and Chisora don't need no stinking belts; they're getting money without it. Nobody's bending over backwards to guarantee that they don't blow their shot at the WBA ordinary trinket. Wilder is the only guy making excuses that he's not allowed to fight anyone except Stiverne and bums.

Badhusker wrote:Exactly. Wilder came into the pros with very little amateur experience. Probably had 50 or 60 fights in the amateurs. Some of the dumb fucks on this site think he should be thrown in with top 20's right away. They are bringing Wilder up at the right pace despite the frustration of uneducated fans. Watch how everyone jumps on his bandwagon when he becomes champ. I would never argue that his competition has been great,. but good boxers can be ruined by that too. I think he is more than hype, and in a year or two many will agree.

^ Too dumb to realize that there are fighters outside the top 20 who are capable of lasting 5 rounds with Wilder.