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Caractacus wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:and when you look at his record 33-6-21 ko's it tells the real story he was lucky he faced a drugged up Dokes because he would never beatin a motivated Dokes how lucky was he :?? Aig difference its almost unfair Dokes lasted over 10 round's that sais it all
Bionic right hand

What makes you think that "Being Drugged Up" didnt actually enhance Dokes fighting performance in the ring?
He probably came into the ring thinking he was a "Superman".
He was on cocaine,he didnt come into the ring after drinking a bottle of Jack Daniels in his dressing room an hour earlier.

I don't think doing coke right before the fight would have much of a negative effect in it self. The problem with Dokes was more that he didn't train because he was busy with parties, whores and coke all the time.
For the record, I don't consider Dokes the massive waste of talent many perceives him to have been. He was fast but with limited power. He had good skills but he was no master boxer. You don't go life and death with Tex Cobb if you have supreme boxing skills, Holmes clearly demonstrated what a truly skilled boxer could do to Cobb. Dokes' reputation is built on a sparring session with Ali, the Gardner fight and a losing effort vs. Holyfield.

Caractacus wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:and when you look at his record 33-6-21 ko's it tells the real story he was lucky he faced a drugged up Dokes because he would never beatin a motivated Dokes how lucky was he :?? Aig difference its almost unfair Dokes lasted over 10 round's that sais it all
Bionic right hand

What makes you think that "Being Drugged Up" didnt actually enhance Dokes fighting performance in the ring?
He probably came into the ring thinking he was a "Superman".
He was on cocaine,he didnt come into the ring after drinking a bottle of Jack Daniels in his dressing room an hour earlier.

Fu.k we should all get on drug's then so it will enhance all our task's for the day and the week and the year wouldn't that be just fu.king dandy

Dude you ever read about the history of amphetamines?

The man with the bionic fist:

"Maybe I can't talk as good as I fight, but I can sure
promise ya, I fight better than what I talk"

The great Khoxai Galaxy from Thailand was the first 115pounder to be elected in the International Boxing Hall of Fame. The best fighter in that weight class without a doubt. He made about 15 title defenses, won all of them, and retired undefeated champion.

They used to called him "The Thai Tyson" in the Far East...Boy!, can he hit!

That really sheds a lot of light on the Coetzee-Dokes fight.

Caractacus wrote:Dude you ever read about the history of amphetamines?

I'm aware dude about amphetamines and what they do I could use some right now mate who would you rather be the fighter that gets in the ring after a week/month drug binge or the fighter that trained and showed up like a PROFFESIONAL fighter :?? just have a little think about it

CAPS LOCK IS NOT BROKEN I COULD'NT GET AN ANSWER OUT OF ''The Great John L'' SO IS THERE ANYONE ON BOXREC THAT COULD HELP ME WITH
GETTING A COPY OF THE DOKES V COETZEE CARD JEFF [FLASH] MALCOLM BEATS BOBBY JOE YOUNG ON THE SAME CARD I'V TRIED FOR YEAR'S WITH NO LUCK.................SHEERS

Thirty-two years ago. Thanks for posting it.

At this time in his career Dokes biggest problem was that he didn’t work hard enough. As I mentioned he had a reputation locally as a partier, but what that really meant more than anything was that he wasn’t in the gym enough to ever really show his true abilities. Anyone who questions Dokes ability based on his struggle with Cobb doesn’t know anything about boxing. That fight is the perfect example of his wasted talent because the fight should have been easy for him if he had been in the gym and done his work.

I recall that a past his best, substance affected Dokes gave Holyfield hell before getting out-willed by the iron-jawed and well prepared Holyfield. I would say that fight is a better example of his true abilities. When he was younger, if he had he stayed in the gym and worked then he might have had a stellar career. The fact that he accomplished what he did with his lack of dedication is pretty amazing.

And yes, Coetzee did punch extremely hard.

WHY DO YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE MALCOLM – YOUNG FIGHT? I ATTENDED THE CARD, AND YOU COULDN’T JUST WHIP OUT YOUR PHONE AND FILM THINGS BACK THEN.

See you in the funny papers.

Gerrie Coetzee's web site:

http://www.gerriecoetzee.com/

The Great John L wrote:At this time in his career Dokes biggest problem was that he didn’t work hard enough. As I mentioned he had a reputation locally as a partier, but what that really meant more than anything was that he wasn’t in the gym enough to ever really show his true abilities. Anyone who questions Dokes ability based on his struggle with Cobb doesn’t know anything about boxing. That fight is the perfect example of his wasted talent because the fight should have been easy for him if he had been in the gym and done his work.

I recall that a past his best, substance affected Dokes gave Holyfield hell before getting out-willed by the iron-jawed and well prepared Holyfield. I would say that fight is a better example of his true abilities. When he was younger, if he had he stayed in the gym and worked then he might have had a stellar career. The fact that he accomplished what he did with his lack of dedication is pretty amazing.

And yes, Coetzee did punch extremely hard.

WHY DO YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE MALCOLM – YOUNG FIGHT? I ATTENDED THE CARD, AND YOU COULDN’T JUST WHIP OUT YOUR PHONE AND FILM THINGS BACK THEN.

See you in the funny papers.

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