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punchoutsb wrote:Neither guy wanted the fight.

I wouldn't go this far. Maybe they didn't want it bad enough. Manny didn't want the fight bad enough to agree to PED testing & Floyd wanted it bad enough to agree to a $10mill per lb overweight penalty, but not bad enough to go w/o PED testing.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Neither guy wanted the fight.

I wouldn't go this far. Maybe they didn't want it bad enough. Manny didn't want the fight bad enough to agree to PED testing & Floyd wanted it bad enough to agree to a $10mill per lb overweight penalty, but not bad enough to go w/o PED testing.

I have to dumb it down for brut. He doesn't get long phrases.

The weight penalty is almost a non issue because Floyd is a consummate pro. He was making some kinda point against JMM. He's not gonna accidentally miss weight. He's the number one guy in his generation.

When it all boiled down, neither guy would move on that last hoop. Its disappointing, but boxing is a business at the end of the day.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Neither guy wanted the fight.

I wouldn't go this far. Maybe they didn't want it bad enough. Manny didn't want the fight bad enough to agree to PED testing & Floyd wanted it bad enough to agree to a $10mill per lb overweight penalty, but not bad enough to go w/o PED testing.

Yes but who had more demands? Manny wanted everything his way and still he did not want the PED testing, why is that?

It wasn't because he didn't want the fight, it was because he knew something was in his system as he continually refused to test despite the amount of days that Mayweather was offering him.

And now in hindsight knowing that his own Trainer accused Ariza of giving him those "special shakes" one can only wonder and speculate that one thing definitely has something to do with the other add that to Pacquiao's pathetic girlie excuses about being afraid of needles (despite about 10 tats on his body aka a lie from him) and how having blood drawn weakens him then it's no wonder why he refused.

punchoutsb wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Neither guy wanted the fight.

I wouldn't go this far. Maybe they didn't want it bad enough. Manny didn't want the fight bad enough to agree to PED testing & Floyd wanted it bad enough to agree to a $10mill per lb overweight penalty, but not bad enough to go w/o PED testing.

I have to dumb it down for brut. He doesn't get long phrases.

The weight penalty is almost a non issue because Floyd is a consummate pro. He was making some kinda point against JMM. He's not gonna accidentally miss weight. He's the number one guy in his generation.

When it all boiled down, neither guy would move on that last hoop. Its disappointing, but boxing is a business at the end of the day.

And you say you're not defending Manny!! Still in denial despite the obvious facts, Manny had a million demands and Floyd had one and still your Idiotic ass doesn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Keep going into the light eventually you'll crash Simpleton.

How is it defending him when I say it was equally his fault? Seriously...explain.

Brut wrote:
And you say you're not defending Manny!! Still in denial despite the obvious facts, Manny had a million demands and Floyd had one and still your Idiotic ass doesn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Keep going into the light eventually you'll crash Simpleton.

What were Manny's demands?

punchoutsb wrote:How is it defending him when I say it was equally his fault? Seriously...explain.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Brut wrote:

Wow you are a simple-minded moron, you cannot see that you are the main one who is defending him, you made all these posts and continually looked the other way on the facts but you cannot see that you are defending the man. Thanks for confirming your stupidity.


And you say you're not defending Manny!! Still in denial despite the obvious facts, Manny had a million demands and Floyd had one and still your Idiotic ass doesn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Keep going into the light eventually you'll crash Simpleton.

What were Manny's demands?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is- ... happening/

Didn't answer my question. Try again.

Brut wrote:
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is- ... happening/

So, Manny's million demands were a 50/50 split and testing to stop at a certain point. Where as Floyd's demands were for an uneven split and random testing up until fight time. Sounds like two demands from two people that were not agreed upon. Other than that, the rest is a bunch of blabber making it look like nothing was Floyd's fault.

Brut, if you didn't exaggerate, and were a bit more level headed, you would be taken more seriously.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Brut wrote:
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is- ... happening/

So, Manny's million demands were a 50/50 split and testing to stop at a certain point. Where as Floyd's demands were for an uneven split and random testing up until fight time. Sounds like two demands from two people that were not agreed upon. Other than that, the rest is a bunch of blabber making it look like nothing was Floyd's fault.

Brut, if you didn't exaggerate, and were a bit more level headed, you would be taken more seriously.

How am I exaggerating when you read the first article from yahoo sports that it clearly states Floyd signed the Contract that had a 50-50 split, Manny wanted a 10 million dollar per pound penalty for every pound Floyd came in at over the limit, Manny chose the gloves, the size of the ring, the weight, the 50-50 and did not agree to the drug testing but I'm not to be taken seriously for quoting the facts.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

The thing that most people don't understand is that Floyd backed away from the 50-50 after Manny lost to Bradley (that's fair) because Pacquiao was no longer being considered an equal to Mayweather (not that he ever was in PPV revenue IMHO).

So I thought it was fair that Floyd pulled the card on the 50-50 deal especially after Manny got put to sleep in cold-blooded fashion by JMM.

If the people still thought Manny should get 50-50 after that then that is clearly their hero worship egos getting in the way.

Brut wrote: How am I exaggerating when you read the first article from yahoo sports that it clearly states Floyd signed the Contract that had a 50-50 split, Manny wanted a 10 million dollar per pound penalty for every pound Floyd came in at over the limit, Manny chose the gloves, the size of the ring, the weight, the 50-50 and did not agree to the drug testing but I'm not to be taken seriously for quoting the facts.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

I'm still waiting for a link to Manny's million demands...

Negotiations are where both sides make demands. The deal breaker for the 2010 fight was the drug testing. And that's it.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Brut wrote: How am I exaggerating when you read the first article from yahoo sports that it clearly states Floyd signed the Contract that had a 50-50 split, Manny wanted a 10 million dollar per pound penalty for every pound Floyd came in at over the limit, Manny chose the gloves, the size of the ring, the weight, the 50-50 and did not agree to the drug testing but I'm not to be taken seriously for quoting the facts.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

I'm still waiting for a link to Manny's million demands...

Negotiations are where both sides make demands. The deal breaker for the 2010 fight was the drug testing. And that's it.

In Floyd's defense.The one stipulation I would of not of backed down on was the testing.
I am not accusing Manny,I just know that Floyd was convinced he was taking peds.
I would of stuck to my guns also on that stipulation.

But I do blame both sides.Always have and always will.This fight had zero chance of getting signed then,And in
my opinion it has less than that now.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Brut wrote: How am I exaggerating when you read the first article from yahoo sports that it clearly states Floyd signed the Contract that had a 50-50 split, Manny wanted a 10 million dollar per pound penalty for every pound Floyd came in at over the limit, Manny chose the gloves, the size of the ring, the weight, the 50-50 and did not agree to the drug testing but I'm not to be taken seriously for quoting the facts.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

I'm still waiting for a link to Manny's million demands...

Negotiations are where both sides make demands. The deal breaker for the 2010 fight was the drug testing. And that's it.

Here is all the proof you need to see that it was Manny's fault the fight didn't happen, go to the 2:50 mark and then listen, this is straight from the Horse's mouth, if you still want to argue it after this then that's on you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUs8yAS_qTs

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/the ... -timeline/

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/1731 ... early-done

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2009/12/pac ... above-147/

Arum killed the fight more than once, and we all know the excuses were pathetic. Some will remain in denial forever. The best opportunity lately for the fight to happen was killed by Manny himself, by re-signing with Arum. They could have had the fight then he could have re-signed.

Interesting recent article about the Manny/Floyd who is to blame bs..

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is- ... ore-181402

Badhusker wrote:Arum killed the fight more than once, and we all know the excuses were pathetic. Some will remain in denial forever. The best opportunity lately for the fight to happen was killed by Manny himself, by re-signing with Arum. They could have had the fight then he could have re-signed.

Interesting recent article about the Manny/Floyd who is to blame bs..

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is- ... ore-181402

CockROACH blamed Manny Pacquiao directly for not wanting the fight, he said it was his fault!! You notice how all the pacTURDS stfu after I posted that video.

Reality is a pill that is hard to swallow for them because they want to believe in their pathetic little hearts that Floyd is afraid of Manny when in fact that talkative, loudmouth, sh*t talking Parrot (Dummy Roach, f*cking retard) let the cat out the bag and implicated the chicken-sh*t Pacquiao as the culprit.

Floyd wanted the fight so badly that he even went so far as calling Manny to offer him 40 million plus he told him that they could discuss the PPV revenue but all that gets reported is the part about the 40 million and nothing about working out the PPV revenue.

It shows that Floyd was not ducking, he signed the contract (Pacquiao didn't), he agreed to the 50-50, the ring size, the gloves, agreed to walking out second and allowing Manny to be announced last and he agreed to the bogus 10 million dollars for every pound over the limit but yet these fools want to still claim it is his fault or he has some blame.

Mayweather asked for one thing, blood testing which he was going to do also and he is vilified for it but yet they give Manny a pass.

So called "Boxing Fans" these days.