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punchoutsb wrote:Regie is a good guy and is objective. He's not a Floyd worshipper.

i never said he wasnt a good or bad guy i dont know him...but no, he is not abjectiv

Chepppaaa wrote: two big guys being nice to each other after a fight. that has nothing to do with floyd. and floyd being a good friend......orbrotherly love....what a joke......he tells his back than best friend 50 that he wants him to help build TMT into a good boxing promotion and 50 does axactly that and waits and stays intouch with floyd and stands by his side during hard times (prison) and what happens when floyd comes back from prison "no i never told you to put money and invest in OUR promotion company, what are you talking to?"

and please dont mix things up....with you and your brother or the 2 big guys....those example have nothign to do with floyd....its how THEY ACT not how he ACTS.

i mean i get the point why you defending him....but some things cant be defended......if we were in a gym and i made fun of you, when you've been hurt by a sparring partner you certainly would find it highly disrespectufl and even if not i dont care....97 % ot others would!!

No clue whatsoever what 50 Cent has to do with this. We don't know the finer points about the promotional issue so idk why you're bringing up something you aren't likely to know the dynamics of let alone the finer aspects of their relationship or their relationship @ that point in time.

I don't think you probably grew up in a tough environment where people would crack on mfers who just got their ass beat. If you don't feel this is acceptable in a gym, fair enough I can understand that, but to many people cracking on mfers in any environment is fair game. Floyd knows this more than most. He can walk outside & people will crack on him. Thing is though if you or I or whoever doesn't like how the gym is ran you or I or whoever could leave that gym. I'm sure not many guys get to the sparring part of the gym & than decide this place is too brutal for me. Most guys have seen this behavior well before they are in the ring sparring & decided this place is or isn't for me.

I will say I think these sorta battles @ the gym aren't great for guys careers overall. Everyone in these sorta gym battles don't have Floyd's defense so they are having tougher days & taking more punches by far in gym battles than in their fights & I tend to think you only got so many punches with your name on them before your body says f#ck this sh!t so these types of battles in the gym will surely shorten some guys careers or wear them down quicker so their peaks are shorter.

Chepppaaa wrote:reggie and brut are totaly dazzled when it comes to right or wrong and than floyd is involved to there is no need to talking, because i dont like to speak with crazy people...and yes the way you defend floyd is crazy...

This is the problem most people seem to have. They think things are right or wrong. There is more of a grey hue on things then the black & white of right & wrong. You can have an opinion & that can be your own personal right or wrong, but to act like everyone should conform to what your right or wrong is is a bit f#cking ridiculous. You will often see me take stances like this in fighter issues here if you pay attention to more than Floyd threads. I take a pro-fighter stance on most issues.

The bottom line is the fighters in this gym aren't forced into this environment. They have chosen to be there.

Boxing is a sport, not a war, and Floyd proves that more than any other fighter alive. Therefore, the fact he tries to create a gladiator atmosphere in his gym is completely fake and fucked up. He should teaching guys how not to get hit and box the right way.

I don't think anyone learns anything by fighting for 30 minutes. It's completely alien to the sport and an unnecessary exercise. Also, many fighter talk of getting buzzed in sparring and how those fights really affect them in the long run.

Whatever, it's the Mayweather Gym and people will do anything for money. People do whatever a rich man says to get money. So, arguing the point is moot; however, I'm sure that sort of nonsense isn't going on under the supervision of Virgil Hunter, Nasim Richardson, Freddie Roach, and even Robert Garcia.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I don't think anyone learns anything by fighting for 30 minutes. It's completely alien to the sport and an unnecessary exercise. Also, many fighter talk of getting buzzed in sparring and how those fights really affect them in the long run.

When boxing started this was how fights went ffs. Completely alien?!?! Guys used to fight a 100 rounds plus...for hours...& the rounds didn't end til you got dropped.

I definitely agree there are long term issues with these types of gym wars though. I don't think Floyd would be impacted that much by them though since he has a defense heavy style so isn't getting hit nearly as much as the average cat.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Boxing is a sport, not a war, and Floyd proves that more than any other fighter alive. Therefore, the fact he tries to create a gladiator atmosphere in his gym is completely fake and fucked up. He should teaching guys how not to get hit and box the right way.

I don't think anyone learns anything by fighting for 30 minutes. It's completely alien to the sport and an unnecessary exercise. Also, many fighter talk of getting buzzed in sparring and how those fights really affect them in the long run.

Whatever, it's the Mayweather Gym and people will do anything for money. People do whatever a rich man says to get money. So, arguing the point is moot; however, I'm sure that sort of nonsense isn't going on under the supervision of Virgil Hunter, Nasim Richardson, Freddie Roach, and even Robert Garcia.

I heared story where a lot of people feel, that ali didnt get parkinson mostly by his pro fights, but during sparring. because often during sparring ali was not moving as much as in pro fights, because he had the headgear on and often he wanted himself to get roughed up because he thought if his body endured struggle during sparring he would deal with it better if it happened in a real fight.

well i am no pro boxer and i dont know about that, but that were ex coaches or basicly people who worked with ali, why would they lie.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I don't think anyone learns anything by fighting for 30 minutes. It's completely alien to the sport and an unnecessary exercise. Also, many fighter talk of getting buzzed in sparring and how those fights really affect them in the long run.

When boxing started this was how fights went ffs. Completely alien?!?! Guys used to fight a 100 rounds plus...for hours...& the rounds didn't end til you got dropped.

I definitely agree there are long term issues with these types of gym wars though. I don't think Floyd would be impacted that much by them though since he has a defense heavy style so isn't getting hit nearly as much as the average cat.

yeah but luckily we arent in 1895....this response from you is exactly why its worthless talking to you, ebcause you dont get the point.

Chepppaaa wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:I don't think anyone learns anything by fighting for 30 minutes. It's completely alien to the sport and an unnecessary exercise. Also, many fighter talk of getting buzzed in sparring and how those fights really affect them in the long run.

When boxing started this was how fights went ffs. Completely alien?!?! Guys used to fight a 100 rounds plus...for hours...& the rounds didn't end til you got dropped.

I definitely agree there are long term issues with these types of gym wars though. I don't think Floyd would be impacted that much by them though since he has a defense heavy style so isn't getting hit nearly as much as the average cat.

yeah but luckily we arent in 1895....this response from you is exactly why its worthless talking to you, ebcause you dont get the point.

I don't see the point you're trying to make. Guys shouldn't get dissed when boxing? Boxers shouldn't fight 30min rounds? Boxers can leave or quit. Its a personal choice. These guys are in a professional boxing gym. Most everyone in that gym will walk out of there a better boxer. Thats the only thing trying to be accomplished. They aren't in a Ms. Manners 6 weeks to proper personal interactions course.