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Leather Daddy wrote: So let's all calmly place our proverbial peckers back into our pants and afford a young champion a few fights before taking on the # 1 guy.

Ian1973 wrote:It makes no sense for Frampton to fight Rigo. I think Frampton can beat Rigo but the risk is too great for the reward. Financially it makes no sense and even a Frampton win would look scruffy and dull against Rigo. There are bigger financial rewards out there and more exciting fights. McGuigan is doing the right thing. Let Frampton beat the rest then let Rigo chase him if he really wants to. Both fighters are unbeaten, both are world champions and both are very good. Despite the over-rated adulation Rigo gets on here from some, there is no certain number one in this division now. Does Frampton need Rigondeaux?Well if he does Rigondeaux needs Frampton as well. People can speculate all they like but until the two meet there is no evidence that one is better than the other.

cocka09 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:It makes no sense for Frampton to fight Rigo. I think Frampton can beat Rigo but the risk is too great for the reward. Financially it makes no sense and even a Frampton win would look scruffy and dull against Rigo. There are bigger financial rewards out there and more exciting fights. McGuigan is doing the right thing. Let Frampton beat the rest then let Rigo chase him if he really wants to. Both fighters are unbeaten, both are world champions and both are very good. Despite the over-rated adulation Rigo gets on here from some, there is no certain number one in this division now. Does Frampton need Rigondeaux?Well if he does Rigondeaux needs Frampton as well. People can speculate all they like but until the two meet there is no evidence that one is better than the other.

It is a sad, sad day when boxing fans start talking like promoters. What happened to wanting to fight the best? To wanting to be the undisputed number 1 in your division? When did it all come down the money? I know the promoters are always thinking with their wallet but when did fans start thinking it was right?

Leather Daddy wrote:Jesus Christ lads. Lets all just put our proverbial peckers back in our pants before things get carried away here.

Ketchel wrote:

cocka09 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:It makes no sense for Frampton to fight Rigo. I think Frampton can beat Rigo but the risk is too great for the reward. Financially it makes no sense and even a Frampton win would look scruffy and dull against Rigo. There are bigger financial rewards out there and more exciting fights. McGuigan is doing the right thing. Let Frampton beat the rest then let Rigo chase him if he really wants to. Both fighters are unbeaten, both are world champions and both are very good. Despite the over-rated adulation Rigo gets on here from some, there is no certain number one in this division now. Does Frampton need Rigondeaux?Well if he does Rigondeaux needs Frampton as well. People can speculate all they like but until the two meet there is no evidence that one is better than the other.

It is a sad, sad day when boxing fans start talking like promoters. What happened to wanting to fight the best? To wanting to be the undisputed number 1 in your division? When did it all come down the money? I know the promoters are always thinking with their wallet but when did fans start thinking it was right?

Its always about the money! Boxers don't box for free. Boxers have a limited lifespan in the ring and if they hit a point were they can make good money they are going to ride that track until they are forced to get off. Fans buy into the whole thing of the best fighting the best but would you do it if you could make more fighting a guy a level below? Mayweather signs a contract for 30 million a fight guaranteed where he can virtually pick who he wants to fight. Is he gonna pick someone who can beat him? No, he will pick a name of someone who is a perceived threat. The TV company does not want him to lose, he does not want to lose so they come out the winners when the fans buy the hype and the fights.

Anyone with the fanciful notion the boxing is about the best versus the best should realise that boxing is a business not a sport.

cocka09 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:It makes no sense for Frampton to fight Rigo. I think Frampton can beat Rigo but the risk is too great for the reward. Financially it makes no sense and even a Frampton win would look scruffy and dull against Rigo. There are bigger financial rewards out there and more exciting fights. McGuigan is doing the right thing. Let Frampton beat the rest then let Rigo chase him if he really wants to. Both fighters are unbeaten, both are world champions and both are very good. Despite the over-rated adulation Rigo gets on here from some, there is no certain number one in this division now. Does Frampton need Rigondeaux?Well if he does Rigondeaux needs Frampton as well. People can speculate all they like but until the two meet there is no evidence that one is better than the other.

It is a sad, sad day when boxing fans start talking like promoters. What happened to wanting to fight the best? To wanting to be the undisputed number 1 in your division? When did it all come down the money? I know the promoters are always thinking with their wallet but when did fans start thinking it was right?

Leather Daddy wrote:Jesus Christ lads. Lets all just put our proverbial peckers back in our pants before things get carried away here.

Carl Frampton is a young man who has just won his first world title. He has a mandatory he needs to take care of (Avalos) and he also has a potentially very big domestic unification fight with WBA champ Scott Quigg. Not to mention, it's typical that a young champion receives a few "soft" defenses.

It appears to me that it's mainly American fight fans who immediately expect a new champ like Frampton to take on the number 1 guy Rigo. That's strange because tbh many American titlists or contenders fight absolute rubbish opponents while overtly avoiding genuinely risky fights (Quillin fought bums then literally vacating to avoid a loss to Korobov, Garcia vacating to avoid Postol, Wilder's entire career VS taxi drivers).

So let's all calmly place our proverbial peckers back into our pants and afford a young champion a few fights before taking on the # 1 guy.

Leather Daddy wrote:Jesus Christ lads. Lets all just put our proverbial peckers back in our pants before things get carried away here.

Carl Frampton is a young man who has just won his first world title. He has a mandatory he needs to take care of (Avalos) and he also has a potentially very big domestic unification fight with WBA champ Scott Quigg. Not to mention, it's typical that a young champion receives a few "soft" defenses.

It appears to me that it's mainly American fight fans who immediately expect a new champ like Frampton to take on the number 1 guy Rigo. That's strange because tbh many American titlists or contenders fight absolute rubbish opponents while overtly avoiding genuinely risky fights (Quillin fought bums then literally vacating to avoid a loss to Korobov, Garcia vacating to avoid Postol, Wilder's entire career VS taxi drivers).

So let's all calmly place our proverbial peckers back into our pants and afford a young champion a few fights before taking on the # 1 guy.

jujigatame wrote:

Leather Daddy wrote:Jesus Christ lads. Lets all just put our proverbial peckers back in our pants before things get carried away here.

I'll be damned if "Leather Daddy" is gonna tell me what to do with my pecker.

On a more serious note, the only reason I want to see Rigo/Frampton is because I think Frampton is the most qualified guy to be challenging Rigo at this point. Maybe a year ago it was Santa Cruz but he has done nothing lately and I think Frampton's resume surpasses his now.

Also, Frampton is actually OLDER than Santa Cruz.

jujigatame wrote:

Leather Daddy wrote:Jesus Christ lads. Lets all just put our proverbial peckers back in our pants before things get carried away here.

I'll be damned if "Leather Daddy" is gonna tell me what to do with my pecker.