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Posted: 15 Jun 2004, 01:10
I guess thats why they invented the term Pound for Pound. Some of these guys where so damn good that they could have dominated several divisions regardless of weight, they were in a class all their own.
Tunney did not beat Greb four times. Greb won the first match, was robbed in the second in what was considered one of the worst decisions ever rendered in New York at the time, he lost the third, won the fourth in the opinion of 2 of the 3 Cleveland newspapers (the third had it draw, Greb by majority decision), and lost the fifth. Furthermore, Tunney didnt have nearly as many big wins at light heavy as Greb. Grebs record of top notch wins goes all the way back to at least 1917 while Tunney wasnt getting headlines until his win over faded Battling Levinsky (who Greb had beaten 6 times) in 1922.headhunter wrote:i agree greb was a great fighter at both middle and lightheavy mainly due to the names on his record e.g walker, loughran etc but while his win over tunney was very impressive its often overlooked that tunney beat greb four times.
if greb is in the list of atg lightheavys he`s got to be pencilled in lower down the list than tunney for me.
i think knockout artist sums it up very well......
the greatest L/H is ezzard charles, the greatest champion is archie moore.
In prime-vs.-prime terms, most would agree with you. OTOH in terms of overall career accomplishments at the weight, a very good case can be made for Moore. Charles beat Moore all 3 times they met in their respective physical primes, but Moore went on to have a freakishly long career at the top, including of course a title win and many defenses - Charles was effectively shut out of the LHW title hunt during his briefer tenure at the weight.Hut*Hut wrote:I think Ezzard Charles would be No1.
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