BoxRec

1.Floyd

the rest of top 5 are Ward, Manny, Rigo, Wlad ( no particular order)

GGG is just outside the top 5

Floyd (still #1 but may slide if his face looks like after Maidana II fight again)
Rigo
Wlad
Roman Gonzalez
Ward
Manny
Golovkin
Froch
Lara
Kovalev

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:1. rigondeaux
2. golovkin
3. lara
4. mayweather
5. ward
6. pacquiao
7. gonzales
8. alvarez
9. kovalev
10. stevenson

I'm the biggest Lara fan in the world, how was he more impressive against Canelo than Floyd was? Get a grip dude.

Canelo barely landed anything beside a few body shots against Lara. He "won" only with a help of a pocket judge. Maidana didn't land much either, so your comparison is actually good: Floyd and Erislandy were clear winners except that Lara's opponent was better than Floyd's.

Floyd won 10 or 12 rounds, I thought Lara won 7. You thought Erislandy was a victim of an alltime robbery?

Lara was a runaway pussy. What a disgrace to boxing.

Alvarez clearly deserved the decision against that clod.

Horse wrote:Lara was a runaway pussy. What a disgrace to boxing.

Alvarez clearly deserved the decision against that clod.

Lara wasn't running. He was flying and stinging, and it worked.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd won 10 or 12 rounds, I thought Lara won 7. You thought Erislandy was a victim of an alltime robbery?

Yes, it was rather close, but one of the cards was clearly corrupt.

ikorolev wrote:Lara wasn't running. He was flying and stinging, and it worked.

Yet, he lost.

Lara = Pussy runaway bitch.

Horse wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Lara wasn't running. He was flying and stinging, and it worked.

Yet, he lost.

Lara = Pussy runaway bitch.

He lost due to one corrupt judge. Why can't you accept that different styles have their right to exist ? I am Golovkin's fan, but Lara's style is sometimes quite productive in terms of a result (I don't mean judges' cards, but landed shots and ring generalship). Lara's shots were not soft touches like Algieri's ones, he wasn't dropped or hurt, his face looked good after the fight, so he deserved a win way more than Algieri.

ikorolev wrote:He lost due to one corrupt judge. Why can't you accept that different styles have their right to exist ? I am Golovkin's fan, but Lara's style is sometimes quite productive in terms of a result (I don't mean judges' cards, but landed shots and ring generalship). Lara's shots were not soft touches like Algieri's ones, he wasn't dropped or hurt, his face looked good after the fight, so he deserved a win way more than Algieri.

Lara got taught a lesson.

Running away like a terrified pussy is often not the best tactic.

Rigondeaux is rated too highly on a number of these lists. Aside from Donaire, who has he really beaten? Mayweather still has to be number one.

Anyways, my list:

1. Mayweather
2. Ward (if he is inactive for a one year I will drop him)
3. Pacquiao
4. R. Gonzalez
5. Bradley
6. Marquez
7. Froch
8. Klitschko
9. Rigondeaux
10. Garcia

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd won 10 or 12 rounds, I thought Lara won 7. You thought Erislandy was a victim of an alltime robbery?

Yes, it was rather close, but one of the cards was clearly corrupt.

LOL, so what's your point?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd won 10 or 12 rounds, I thought Lara won 7. You thought Erislandy was a victim of an alltime robbery?

Yes, it was rather close, but one of the cards was clearly corrupt.

LOL, so what's your point?

My point is that Lara belongs to top 10 p4p.

Horse wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:1. rigondeaux
2. golovkin
3. lara
4. mayweather
5. ward
6. pacquiao
7. gonzales
8. alvarez
9. kovalev
10. stevenson

Cuban hypejobs!

Lara just got exposed by Alvarez, he's an absolute joke of a P4P contender.

i see you dont know much about boxing.

at this time black americans are hypejobs and not cubans. cubans are solid boxer who fight everybody and dont shy away from fights, like hernandez, rigondeaux, lara, gamboa and some upc comers like dorticos or rance etc., so much talent for an island smaller than florida.

black americans get hyped, but fail. broner, people thought he would be the next p4p king, now total fail. timmy, people thought so much of him, at the end, he is an overhyped guy with 0 power who lost 3 of his last 4 bouts. and than the hyped quillon, who refuses to fight a strong guy.

alvarez was missing everything and lara schooled canelo better than floy did. than dumb as lara is, lara beat himself, in stopping punching at all. in terms of footwrok, technic he was totaly ridicouling canelo, canelo couldnt land nothing. lara landed easy with his long straight jab. right now either a catch weight or at 154 lara would beat floyd, because unlike 99,9 % of opponents floyd has, lara can equal floyd speed and footwork and athletiscm, and is similar sound in terms of technical boxing. and than put on the advantages of power, reach and age and now youd understand why at this point lara > mayweather.

and rigo is 2 time gold medalist, undefeated pro, who made look a than p4p top 4 fighter like a schoolgirl and rarely lost a single round in his last 4 fights. easily the best boxer in the world.

Horse wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Lara wasn't running. He was flying and stinging, and it worked.

Yet, he lost.

Lara = Pussy runaway bitch.

you like floyd running and dislike laras running.....contradicting

Chepppaaa wrote:i see you dont know much about boxing.

at this time black americans are hypejobs and not cubans. cubans are solid boxer who fight everybody and dont shy away from fights, like hernandez, rigondeaux, lara, gamboa and some upc comers like dorticos or rance etc., so much talent for an island smaller than florida.

black americans get hyped, but fail. broner, people thought he would be the next p4p king, now total fail. timmy, people thought so much of him, at the end, he is an overhyped guy with 0 power who lost 3 of his last 4 bouts. and than the hyped quillon, who refuses to fight a strong guy.

Black Americans - Mayweather, Ward, Bradley, Hopkins, Crawford etc. Black Americans are doing okay and they're doing far better than the Cubans are doing at the moment.

Broner was a hypejob and I saw through the hype from the beginning; just like I see through this ridiculous Cuban hype that's going on at the moment.

Chepppaaa wrote:alvarez was missing everything and lara schooled canelo better than floy did. than dumb as lara is, lara beat himself, in stopping punching at all. in terms of footwrok, technic he was totaly ridicouling canelo, canelo couldnt land nothing. lara landed easy with his long straight jab. right now either a catch weight or at 154 lara would beat floyd, because unlike 99,9 % of opponents floyd has, lara can equal floyd speed and footwork and athletiscm, and is similar sound in terms of technical boxing. and than put on the advantages of power, reach and age and now youd understand why at this point lara > mayweather.

and rigo is 2 time gold medalist, undefeated pro, who made look a than p4p top 4 fighter like a schoolgirl and rarely lost a single round in his last 4 fights. easily the best boxer in the world.

Mayweather beat Alvarez with ease, Lara ran away and lost.

Rigo is clearly the best Cuban, but he's also the most overrated. A good pressure fighter can outpoint or stop him.

Chepppaaa wrote:you like floyd running and dislike laras running.....contradicting

Floyd runs far less than Lara and he throws more and lands much better punches to show that he's boxing off the backfoot, rather than just trying to escape a fight.

ikorolev wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ikorolev wrote: Yes, it was rather close, but one of the cards was clearly corrupt.

LOL, so what's your point?

My point is that Lara belongs to top 10 p4p.

Yet you responded to me on a totally different point all together?

Horse wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:you like floyd running and dislike laras running.....contradicting

Floyd runs far less than Lara and he throws more and lands much better punches to show that he's boxing off the backfoot, rather than just trying to escape a fight.

you realy know 0

yeah he lands so much better punches, thats why he got 2 kos in his last 12 fights

where lara has 6

when did you start following boxing, yesterday....

floyd was in more boring fights than lara was, easily. one big reason was floyd himself, with his boring style, laying on the ropes or running. that resulated in 7 fights since 2010 till 2014, with 0 very good fight and most fight either UD or MD. and one stinker KO.

lara wins in terrific matches and had some great entertaining fights and some are not so good, but at least some are real good, where he stood for example infront of one of the most feared boxer back than and traded with him and made him wobble. he lost close, but at least he had the balls to face somebody way taller than him in prime paul williams, terrific fight. ronald hearns tko 1, no running. vanes vs lara, good fight, not much running, like floyd vs guerrero, where floyd was running 12 rounds long. angulo fight, terrific fight, great ending.

Horse wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:i see you dont know much about boxing.

at this time black americans are hypejobs and not cubans. cubans are solid boxer who fight everybody and dont shy away from fights, like hernandez, rigondeaux, lara, gamboa and some upc comers like dorticos or rance etc., so much talent for an island smaller than florida.

black americans get hyped, but fail. broner, people thought he would be the next p4p king, now total fail. timmy, people thought so much of him, at the end, he is an overhyped guy with 0 power who lost 3 of his last 4 bouts. and than the hyped quillon, who refuses to fight a strong guy.

Black Americans - Mayweather, Ward, Bradley, Hopkins, Crawford etc. Black Americans are doing okay and they're doing far better than the Cubans are doing at the moment.

Broner was a hypejob and I saw through the hype from the beginning; just like I see through this ridiculous Cuban hype that's going on at the moment.

Chepppaaa wrote:alvarez was missing everything and lara schooled canelo better than floy did. than dumb as lara is, lara beat himself, in stopping punching at all. in terms of footwrok, technic he was totaly ridicouling canelo, canelo couldnt land nothing. lara landed easy with his long straight jab. right now either a catch weight or at 154 lara would beat floyd, because unlike 99,9 % of opponents floyd has, lara can equal floyd speed and footwork and athletiscm, and is similar sound in terms of technical boxing. and than put on the advantages of power, reach and age and now youd understand why at this point lara > mayweather.

and rigo is 2 time gold medalist, undefeated pro, who made look a than p4p top 4 fighter like a schoolgirl and rarely lost a single round in his last 4 fights. easily the best boxer in the world.

Mayweather beat Alvarez with ease, Lara ran away and lost.

Rigo is clearly the best Cuban, but he's also the most overrated. A good pressure fighter can outpoint or stop him.

a lot of people "can" do a lot of stuff in the "can world", but actualy in real life can't do a lot of stuff.

Chepppaaa wrote:you realy know 0

yeah he lands so much better punches, thats why he got 2 kos in his last 12 fights

where lara has 6

Mayweather fights better opponents.

Chepppaaa wrote:when did you start following boxing, yesterday....

floyd was in more boring fights than lara was, easily. one big reason was floyd himself, with his boring style, laying on the ropes or running. that resulated in 7 fights since 2010 till 2014, with 0 very good fight and most fight either UD or MD. and one stinker KO.

lara wins in terrific matches and had some great entertaining fights and some are not so good, but at least some are real good, where he stood for example infront of one of the most feared boxer back than and traded with him and made him wobble. he lost close, but at least he had the balls to face somebody way taller than him in prime paul williams, terrific fight. ronald hearns tko 1, no running. vanes vs lara, good fight, not much running, like floyd vs guerrero, where floyd was running 12 rounds long. angulo fight, terrific fight, great ending.

He ran against Alvarez and his punches were unimpressive.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ikorolev wrote: My point is that Lara belongs to top 10 p4p.

Yet you responded to me on a totally different point all together?

I was arguing more with Horse than with you. Quoted you by mistake.

Horse wrote:Mayweather fights better opponents.

No, he doesn't

Horse wrote:He ran against Alvarez and his punches were unimpressive.

Repeating myself:
"Lara's shots were not soft touches like Algieri's ones, he wasn't dropped or hurt, his face looked good after the fight, so he deserved a win way more than Algieri."

Chepppaaa wrote:a lot of people "can" do a lot of stuff in the "can world", but actualy in real life can't do a lot of stuff.

Thanks for that.

ikorolev wrote:No, he doesn't

Yes, he does.