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Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 15:25
by Horse
ttornado wrote:It appears a ranking based on emotion rather than objectivity.
How did you work that out?
Why shouldn't Smith be 20th? What have those below him done that is better than arguably beating Abraham?
ttornado wrote:It's not like Abraham is highly ranked in World P4P lists, where would you rank AA?
Top 100.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 15:32
by whiskey
Horse wrote:G0mez wrote:He annoys me, but I don't 'hate' him - Froch stopped him twice, done / dusted.
But there are others on your list whom have challenged or won world titles , that are far below George.
I don't see you offer any merit as to why that is.
You need a rational list, not an emotional one.
You slag Groves off any chance you get. You are a Groves hater.
You picked him to win, he got smashed up - and then you still award him an undeserving ranking for him over more deserving and accomplished champions and former champions.
You offer no explanation as to why he merits it.
Case closed.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 15:38
by SMALL AXE1
G0mez wrote:Horse wrote:G0mez wrote:He annoys me, but I don't 'hate' him - Froch stopped him twice, done / dusted.
But there are others on your list whom have challenged or won world titles , that are far below George.
I don't see you offer any merit as to why that is.
You need a rational list, not an emotional one.
You slag Groves off any chance you get. You are a Groves hater.
You picked him to win, he got smashed up - and then you still award him an undeserving ranking for him over more deserving and accomplished champions and former champions.
You offer no explanation as to why he merits it.
Case closed.
When Degale kicks his ass will you still ride him like a donkey?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 15:51
by Horse
G0mez wrote:You picked him to win, he got smashed up - and then you still award him an undeserving ranking for him over more deserving and accomplished champions and former champions.
I picked Groves to win against Froch? When?
G0mez wrote:You offer no explanation as to why he merits it.
Case closed.
You're the only one who has a problem with his ranking.
I have no need to explain it, it is obvious.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:08
by ttornado
Horse wrote:What have those below him done that is better than arguably beating Abraham?
Gallagher only scored it a draw, so while the fight was closer than expected the argument for the win isn't particularly strong.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:13
by Horse
ttornado wrote:Gallagher only scored it a draw, so while the fight was closer than expected the argument for the win isn't particularly strong.
26% thought Smith deserved the win and 19% thought he deserved a draw.
What have those below him done that is better than that?
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=185302
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:20
by ttornado
Horse wrote:26% thought Smith deserved the win and 19% thought he deserved a draw.
Which means 74% thought Smith didn't win.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:25
by digzee
ttornado wrote:Horse wrote:26% thought Smith deserved the win and 19% thought he deserved a draw.
Which means 74% thought Smith didn't win.
And the other 26% are scousers, no way did Smith win that fight.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:28
by Horse
ttornado wrote:Which means 74% thought Smith didn't win.
So what?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 02 Oct 2014, 16:29
by Horse
digzee wrote:And the other 26% are scousers, no way did Smith win that fight.
I disagree with you.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 03 Oct 2014, 03:13
by los2
galahad should be higher....young boxer of the year.....british commonwealth and european champion....
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 03 Oct 2014, 08:28
by Horse
los2 wrote:galahad should be higher....young boxer of the year.....british commonwealth and european champion....
His record isn't that great though. He needs to step up.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 16:10
by los2
Horse wrote:los2 wrote:galahad should be higher....young boxer of the year.....british commonwealth and european champion....
His record isn't that great though. He needs to step up.
u've got plenty of fighters above him who haven't won at european level.............if he loses at world level u'd put him in the top 10..........
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 17:42
by brian13
At the gap between Macklin and Murray
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 18:43
by Horse
los2 wrote:u've got plenty of fighters above him who haven't won at european level.............if he loses at world level u'd put him in the top 10..........
Galahad is where he belongs. He needs to fight better opposition.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 06 Oct 2014, 18:43
by Horse
brian13 wrote: At the gap between Macklin and Murray
Murray's better.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 03:31
by Boxerbeetle
Horse wrote:brian13 wrote: At the gap between Macklin and Murray
Murray's better.
Macklin looked absolutely awful on the Smith-Abraham card; I wouldn't be calling for him to be any higher at the moment.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 08:57
by los2
Horse wrote:los2 wrote:u've got plenty of fighters above him who haven't won at european level.............if he loses at world level u'd put him in the top 10..........
Galahad is where he belongs. He needs to fight better opposition.
u,ve got fighters above him whose best win is british level.....when they moved up they lost...
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2014
Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 09:44
by Horse
los2 wrote:u,ve got fighters above him whose best win is british level.....when they moved up they lost...
Galahad might be European champion, but he hasn't really beaten anyone at European level yet.
He needs to fight better opponents. Hopefully Martinez becomes his next mandatory challenger.