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ikorolev wrote:Quillin doesn't belong to Ward's and Cotto's tiers. After Korobov beats Lee, he will have a better resume than Quillin and he will have a belt making him way more interesting opponent than Quittin.

While I picked Korobov, Quillin is joining Ward and Broner on this site for having their resume shitted on in an exaggerated manner, largely for shyte they do outside the ring.

Korobov my be better than Quillin, but in no way does beating an undeserving fringe contender like Lee to "earn" a paper alphabet belt mean he has a better resume. N'Dam is a much better fighter than anyone Korobov has fought and a lot of oeople on this site were high on Rosado only two fights before he fought Quillin when he landed a few against GGG. Korobov's best win to date is against a modest thumper with a pretty record who had beaten nobody.
I don't particular like Quillin because he seems lazy in the ring, his mouth is bigger than his talent/ambition so far and he was an idiot for turning down the Korobov fight for the money he could have made. But Korobov's resume isn't better and besting Lee won't markedly improve Korobov's resume, any more than beating Guerrero helped Quillin's.

Well, Quillin didn't really beat Rosado. N'Dam is pretty good, but we don't know if he is better than the U.... guy beaten by Korobov, as they both haven't really been tested.

fergusg wrote:You’re quite disrespectful aren’t you? Just because my opinion differs from yours, that doesn’t automatically give you the right to assume that I’m lying and that I didn’t watch the fight!

i'm telling you that you didn't watch the fight based on your own comments about it.
he "repeatedly hit the deck" BECAUSE OF HIS KNEE.
soliman was not even hit cleanly before going down, and not at all at least 2 of those times called
knockdowns, and got up hopping on one leg, and the ref literally had the ring doctor look at soliman's
LEG. your comments about soliman's performance are completely divorced from what actually
happened. feel disrepected all you want. i'm telling you that you're full of crap

Soliman was never hurt. Instead of finishing him, Taylor was mainly wrestling with him. That was a reliable way to win a fight for Taylor, but the fact still is: all those KDs happened, because Soliman couldn't keep balance due to his bad knee.

KBB wrote:You know you're on the rise when everyone has already written your current opponent off and is listing the next vic, oops, I mean competitor.

It would be a major upset and shock to the system if Rubio cans GGG in the first round.

it would be a major shock to the system if rubio wins a split decision.

Maybe one of Taylor's knockdowns had a real punch behind it. Can't remember which one. Fact is before the injury, neither Taylor nor Soliman were fighting like they belonged in the top 20 of a division that isn't very deep. Now Taylor will get a big check to get KO'd by somebody and Soliman will probably get a nice check for a match with Geale and Mundine.

Saul Alvarez , dont think cotto will take the power

Canelo would get beaten up badly vs GGG. Sorry but that's how I see it as a fighter that was kinda rocked vs light hitting Floyd. Cotto is in same boat. Bring on Murray or Quillin...even Joshuu Clottey

Canello is not mobile enough. Golovkin would destroy him.

Ian1973 wrote:Canello is not mobile enough. Golovkin would destroy him.

GGG will need to move up in weight to get any challenge.

once again 3g mentions his belts and says he wants to fight champions.
last time he said cotto wasn't a real middleweight and wouldn't take the fight
but this time he repeated cotto emphatically that is who he wanted, and he
took that wbc interim thing (which i thought was the silver) so why wouldn't
that earn him a mandatory at some point, especially since the wbc was saying
(i think after suliaman died) recently the titles should be unified?

Kessler?

birdman77 wrote:Canelo would get beaten up badly vs GGG. Sorry but that's how I see it as a fighter that was kinda rocked vs light hitting Floyd. Cotto is in same boat. Bring on Murray or Quillin...even Joshuu Clottey

Murray and Quillin got no chance and no balls. Chavez or Froch may take on GGG, though likelihood of that decreased after Gennady KO'ed a tough guy who never hit canvas before even though he fought Pavlik, JCCJ and Lemieux.

Maybe it is time to fight Ward if he came to senses and is ready to fairly split a purse ?

fergusg wrote: I claimed that Soliman was injured in the first post of this thread and I never claimed he was ever legitimately hurt by Taylor's punches.

oh my, you liiieeeeeeeee.
you said soliman "repeatedly hit the deck" to support your argument that taylor outclassed ss.
you didn't even mention why soliman went down, which is the equivalent of blaming a pilot
for crashing a plane after the engines fell off, insincere at best for anyone who watched the fight.
you can squirm and dodge but you, sir, are full of crap.

I am surprised nobody brought up Daniel Jacobs, He's WBA champion, 28-1 with 25 KO's. I am not saying he would beat GGG, but he would be his best opponent by far. He's using his legs like Daniel Geale, but has some power aswell.

His lone loss against Pirog, well... i've seen him up on points until the KO (all judges saw him up, 3-1), and Pirog wasn't bad, he's been 17-0 with 14 KO's. I see him giving GGG some work, if he doesn't get caught like against Pirog. If he had Stevens chin, he would might even go the distance with him, thanks to his feet.

GGG did better with natural MW's so far. Macklin, Ishida, Geale, Proksa & now Rubio were blown out pretty early. The light-middle Rosado came far (R7) without getting knocked down, and the 170cm Stevens (R8) did aswell.

Golovkin vs Jacobs, get it on!

Kessler is basically retired. I'd say move him up slowly vs heavier guys. Maybe Arthur Abraham. JCC. hell, even Polish guy Adonis fought recently. Forgot name

GGG might have to fight at different weights to find top level guys. I cant see ANYONE beating this destruction machine .

Ward dont want none of this .

From Dan Rafael:

"GGG all smiles at presser. Loeffler says back in Feb in Monte Carlo unlesss Chavez steps up"

birdman77 wrote:Kessler is basically retired. I'd say move him up slowly vs heavier guys. Maybe Arthur Abraham. JCC. hell, even Polish guy Adonis fought recently. Forgot name

... or Australian guy who fought Klitchko recently. Forgot name ...

If Murray gets past the second round against Golovkin Horse will have him back up at number two in the British P4P list.

Cotto I hope. GGG has been awesome. He deserves to fight the best or most accomplished

at GGG's prospects for competition ahead. There is no realistic fight out there that will test him.

Riddick Blowe wrote: at GGG's prospects for competition ahead. There is no realistic fight out there that will test him.

GGG is a bit like Mike Tyson in that respect except GGG's opponents don't freeze up with as much fear.

Murray is about as good as it gets for realistic opponents at MW. Hopefully a higher profile bout with Cotto/Canelo happens this year too.

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:I am surprised nobody brought up Daniel Jacobs, He's WBA champion, 28-1 with 25 KO's. I am not saying he would beat GGG, but he would be his best opponent by far. He's using his legs like Daniel Geale, but has some power aswell.

His lone loss against Pirog, well... i've seen him up on points until the KO (all judges saw him up, 3-1), and Pirog wasn't bad, he's been 17-0 with 14 KO's. I see him giving GGG some work, if he doesn't get caught like against Pirog. If he had Stevens chin, he would might even go the distance with him, thanks to his feet.

GGG did better with natural MW's so far. Macklin, Ishida, Geale, Proksa & now Rubio were blown out pretty early. The light-middle Rosado came far (R7) without getting knocked down, and the 170cm Stevens (R8) did aswell.

Golovkin vs Jacobs, get it on!

Jacobs' record is fairly padded in my view as his top opponents were a blown up Ishe Smith on a losing streak who still arguably won 4 of 10 rounds, and very chinny Jarrod Fletcher who had been destroyed about a year earlier in two rounds by Billy Joe Saunders. Against many of his best opponents his power hasn't looked that impressiveness, as Pirog walked through his shots, Smith was never phased, Michael Walker wasn't hurt, and George Walton had to take a beating over several rounds to be stopped. In addition to showing signs of possible chin issues as an amateur (i.e. dropped multiple times and rocked on other occasions) he was hurt twice by Smith and obviously KTFO by Pirog, neither of whom are punchers.

He is fast and has some decent skills, but I think he'd get caught and stopped early.