Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

Was Soliman vs Taylor FIXED?

Soliman vs Taylor was NOT fixed.
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Soliman vs Taylor WAS fixed.
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Total votes: 26

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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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bash for cash wrote:I read some idiot trying to claim the Sam Soliman vs Germain Taylor fight was fixed and part of the fix was Soliman pretending he was injured :lol:

Does anyone honestly believe that is what took place?

If you do, state your case. Votes suggesting the fight was fixed won't be respected unless you state your case for voting that way.
IF A FIGHTER AGREED TO DO SOMETHING SO LOW FOR WHATEVER REASON HE WOULD'NT AGREE TO GET PUNISHED FOR 10/12 ROUND'S HE WOULD SIMPLY TAKE A DIVE EARLY IN THE FIGHT
SO HE WOULD'NT HAVE ALL THE SENSE PUNCHED OUT OF HIM THAT WAY HE COULD COLLECT THE FIX MONEY
BACK IN 94 SOME SMART PEOPLE WERE CLAIMING MOORER TOOK A DIVE SO FOREMAN COULD BECOME THE CHAMP AGAIN SURE BIG GEORGE AGREED TO GET FLOGGED FOR 9 AND A BIT ROUND'S
BEFORE MOORER TAKES THE DIVE.
SMART MANAGEMENT.
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Kurt Emhoff said it happened in the 4th on Sam's facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/samkingsoliman ... =1&theater

Sam told Ray Wheatley it happened in the 5th.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/soliman ... ore-266543
an: I will be back early in 2015

By Ray Wheatley — World of Boxing
Photo: Werner Kalin

Former IBF middleweight champion Sam “King” Soliman spoke to Fightnews.com and revealed that he has decided not to retire and will resume his career in February or March 2015 against a rated middleweight. Soliman injured his knee in round five of his IBF middleweight title defense against Jermain Taylor and has undergone rehabilitation. He now has a brace on his leg but is power walking and has been advised by his doctor he can degin sparring sessions in early December.

“The injury to my knee happened in round five and I was in control of the fight until that occurred, said Soliman. “Had I been losing the rounds before that injury I definitely would have contemplated retirement. I take nothing away from Jermaine Taylor. He has been an outstanding world champion and I respect what he has done in boxing. Jermain is five years younger than me but I still feel many years younger than what I am and I credit that to the clean life I have lived and my dedication to training.

“After viewing the fight when ESPN commentator Teddy Atlas said I won rounds two, three, four and five with round one drawn and also having everyone say to me ‘you were winning the fight until you injured your knee in round five,’ that gives me the hunger to continue. I still won round five with that bad knee but it became worse as the fight progressed. I was not hurt at any point during the fight and that includes the knockdowns when I had no balance.

“I want to thank the American boxing fans who treated me so well before and after the fight. I had a holiday in New York, which I enjoyed, after the Taylor fight. I’m looking forward to being back boxing in the USA soon.”

“Thanks to Fightnews for your support. You have been great. I will be back early in 2015.”
And told Aus-boxing it happened in the 6th.

http://www.aus-boxing.com/2014/11/01/sa ... r-rematch/
Sam Soliman looking for another title tilt, Taylor rematch
soliman_taylor2


FORMER IBF middleweight champion, Sam Soliman, is on the comeback trail after winning the respect of millions of boxing fans around the world by raising the bar on courage and determination by fighting with a knee injury that would have caused most if not all fighters to quit.


Soliman injured his medial ligament in the sixth round when defending his IBF middleweight title in Biloxi, Mississippi on October 8th, against Jermain Taylor, former four-time world title holder, and now IBF middleweight champion. Soliman was ahead on all three judges’ score cards at the time.


“My rehabilitation program is being overseen by one of Australia’s leading sports physicians, Dr Peter Fuller, and I was told today that if all goes the way it has since the fight, and I stay to plan, I can fight at the level I need early next year,” Soliman said.


Soliman’s manager, David Stanley said: “Sam lost the title, but he won over the hearts of the US boxing public and boxing media around the world with a truly courageous Arturo Gatti like effort. A re-match with Jermain Taylor would generate a lot of interest.”


Team Soliman are now talking with Taylor’s management about the rematch.


Soliman’s manager David Stanley said: “We enjoyed an excellent relationship with Team Taylor, and there is mutual respect both for what Taylor did to win the fight, and for what Soliman did to finish it.”


“A Team Taylor insider we talked to after the fight said they would consider a re-match, and our US agent and lawyer, Kurt Emhoff, is now working on a formal request for a rematch as Taylor’s next defense.”


Soliman said: “We gave Team Taylor a shot. It’s now in their hands. I respectfully ask Team Taylor to return the honor we extended to them, and let’s do it early next year.”


“A re-match, giving us a chance to go to war a second time would be pretty entertaining because both of us are true warriors,” Soliman said.


“I have a lot of respect for Jermain Taylor. He was very respectful to me leading up to and after the fight. Jermain is as humble as they come. Some of the comments made in the media were unfair, Jermain is a really good guy.


“I was only able to get through those last six rounds because of the great preparation I had through the efforts of my team Christian Ennor, Nigel McCarthy, David Tuinauvai, David Stanley, Kurt Emhoff, Rich Ryan; and the promise I made to the children at the Bythedale Childrens Hospital in Valhalla New York that I would never quit if they promised to never quit.


“Taylor is the former undisputed champion of the world and I know he would have felt better if he had won the fight by outboxing or by knocking me out to became a world champion. In a rematch he will have the chance to just that,” Soliman said.


“Having lost the belt in the way I did, its undisputable, Jermain and I have some unfinished business.”


“I believe Taylor has the pride of a true champion and will grant us the rematch. I would do the same if I was in his situation.”
3 different versions on 3 different occasions. There are those that say that's suspicious. But that's for them to say I guess.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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u just making yourself look silly now mr.google, lol.
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He is silly buster, Sam was winning till the injury, then fought through with the injury, out of all the crap that they have spun, the imbeciles from the other forum which includes da moron, not one mention of why Sam would fake an injury, what would he gain, no rematch clause, they are just showing how little they really know about the sport, they're spectators that regurgitate what sports writers say with no real idea, da moron wrote somewhere why didn't sam quit if he couldn't win, that there sums up the kind of person da moron is, doesn't understand pride, achievement
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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buster007 wrote:the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
World title fight held in the USA under the auspices of the IBF with numerous ringside officials including a medical practitioner, watched by thousands, and not a murmur about the fight being fixed. Not a single murmur. A search of the various boxing news sites and nothing. Not a mention of even the remotest possibility the fight might have been fixed.

Then a guy in the suburbs half a world away watches a replay of the fight on youtube, lets his imagination get the better of him, and claims the fight was fixed.

Conclusion: The Goose is indeed a goose :doh:
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3 different versions people. 4th,5th or 6th round. :shame:
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Like a Boss wrote:
buster007 wrote:the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
World title fight held in the USA under the auspices of the IBF with numerous ringside officials including a medical practitioner, watched by thousands, and not a murmur about the fight being fixed. Not a single murmur. A search of the various boxing news sites and nothing. Not a mention of even the remotest possibility the fight might have been fixed.

Then a guy in the suburbs half a world away watches a replay of the fight on youtube, lets his imagination get the better of him, and claims the fight was fixed.

Conclusion: The Goose is indeed a goose :doh:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/blow ... 10n2d.html

:DDD :doh:

http://nypost.com/2000/02/17/how-to-buy ... -about-6g/

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/ib ... ion-again/

http://www.BS.com/former-ratin ... ion--62828

How did someone with Taylors history and woeful opponent level get a top 15 ranking? Look at his 4 previous opponents. Since his lay off after his brain bleed.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Dec2013

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Oct 2012

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Apr 2012 OK Truax is semi decent

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Dec 2011

Don't mention the integrity of the IBF it just discredits your argument. :shame: You have to remember the IBF also let Geale fight Mundine instead of his mandatory(Soliman)in January 2013 because it was a bigger $$$ fight.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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I was wrapped when I hooked the delusional clown the 1st time. He's come back and made an even bigger goog of himself :yay:
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DA GOOSE wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
buster007 wrote:the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
World title fight held in the USA under the auspices of the IBF with numerous ringside officials including a medical practitioner, watched by thousands, and not a murmur about the fight being fixed. Not a single murmur. A search of the various boxing news sites and nothing. Not a mention of even the remotest possibility the fight might have been fixed.

Then a guy in the suburbs half a world away watches a replay of the fight on youtube, lets his imagination get the better of him, and claims the fight was fixed.

Conclusion: The Goose is indeed a goose :doh:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/blow ... 10n2d.html

:DDD :doh:

http://nypost.com/2000/02/17/how-to-buy ... -about-6g/

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/ib ... ion-again/

http://www.BS.com/former-ratin ... ion--62828

How did someone with Taylors history and woeful opponent level get a top 15 ranking? Look at his 4 previous opponents. Since his lay off after his brain bleed.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Dec2013

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Oct 2012

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Apr 2012 OK Truax is semi decent

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Dec 2011

Don't mention the integrity of the IBF it just discredits your argument. :shame: You have to remember the IBF also let Geale fight Mundine instead of his mandatory(Soliman)in January 2013 because it was a bigger $$$ fight.
and the reason for faking it which you haven't covered yet moron?
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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he doesn't believe it was fixed at all. he is just running with it cause he was trying to impress his troll mates.

remember he was too frightened to vote in the poll cause he thought they wouldn't think he was cool anymore, pmsl.

so he ran with this after everybody laughed at how gutless he was.

too scared to vote, lol. he really is a goose.

he is a follower.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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Da sheep :TU:
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half goose, half sheep, lol.
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Da shoose
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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buster007 wrote:the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
DA GOOSE GIVE YOUR SELF UP, COME ON WHATS YOUR REAL NAME
WE'LL SEND YA THE BEST CHRISTMAS CARD. :DD
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
buster007 wrote:the goose is just trying to look cool.

its not working though, lol.
DA GOOSE GIVE YOUR SELF UP, COME ON WHATS YOUR REAL NAME
WE'LL SEND YA THE BEST CHRISTMAS CARD. :DD
Al Haymon. :DD can you send some cash too it cost me heaps to get the IBF MW belt? Nah never mind I will make it back with Quillin v Taylor. :TU:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/10/jer ... or-jacobs/

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/3592 ... ight-title


Taylor said he looked forward to defending his new title against either IBF mandatory Hassan N’Dam or former WBO beltholder and fellow Al Haymon-managed fighter Peter Quillin, both of whom were ringside.
Unfortunately Sam won't be getting a rematch.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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buster007 wrote:he doesn't believe it was fixed at all. he is just running with it cause he was trying to impress his troll mates.

remember he was too frightened to vote in the poll cause he thought they wouldn't think he was cool anymore, pmsl.

so he ran with this after everybody laughed at how gutless he was.

too scared to vote, lol. he really is a goose.

he is a follower.
The Goose is either trolling in which case he is a fool. Or he actually believes the fight was fixed in which case he is an even bigger fool.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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bash for cash wrote:
buster007 wrote:he doesn't believe it was fixed at all. he is just running with it cause he was trying to impress his troll mates.

remember he was too frightened to vote in the poll cause he thought they wouldn't think he was cool anymore, pmsl.

so he ran with this after everybody laughed at how gutless he was.

too scared to vote, lol. he really is a goose.

he is a follower.
The Goose is either trolling in which case he is a fool. Or he actually believes the fight was fixed in which case he is an even bigger fool.
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Hesse said it best with this quote. I came here to educate,to ignore me is to remain ignorant. :TU:
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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DA GOOSE wrote:
bash for cash wrote:
buster007 wrote:he doesn't believe it was fixed at all. he is just running with it cause he was trying to impress his troll mates.

remember he was too frightened to vote in the poll cause he thought they wouldn't think he was cool anymore, pmsl.

so he ran with this after everybody laughed at how gutless he was.

too scared to vote, lol. he really is a goose.

he is a follower.
The Goose is either trolling in which case he is a fool. Or he actually believes the fight was fixed in which case he is an even bigger fool.
Hermann Hesse
“Wisdom cannot be imparted. Wisdom that a wise man attempts to impart always sounds like foolishness to someone else ... Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find it, live it, do wonders through it, but one cannot communicate and teach it.”
― Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha
Hesse said it best with this quote. I came here to educate,to ignore me is to remain ignorant. :TU:educate, ha, you couldn't teach a chicken to lay an egg, all I've seen from you is an attempt to slander Sam soliman with absolutely no proof and you still haven't given a reason for your theory that he threw the fight, I see why you like the other imbeciles at the challenged forum, you all have the same intellect, zero
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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like I said, the goose is just a try hard.

he thinks if he trolls that he will look cool, lol.

he bought shame on himself for being petrified to vote in a poll and he's trying to create a smokescreen. but it isn't working.

he's got no friends left, pmsl.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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buster007 wrote:like I said, the goose is just a try hard.

he thinks if he trolls that he will look cool, lol.

he bought shame on himself for being petrified to vote in a poll and he's trying to create a smokescreen. but it isn't working.

he's got no friends left, pmsl.
Sad but probably a good summary.
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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What a bunch of net nerds caring about ''friends'' on a message board. You know Im probably right(these things can't be proven with 100% certainty. I mean look at this comment by Sam before Geale fought GGG.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/box ... 6990888086
Only fight world champ Sam Soliman wants is Geale-Golovkin winner

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Sam 'King' Soliman is waiting on result of Daniel Geale fight.

Sam 'King' Soliman is waiting on result of Daniel Geale fight.

AUSTRALIA’S world middleweight champion Sam ``King’’ Soliman says he is knocking back lucrative offers to defend his title so he can focus instead on fighting the winner of the Daniel Geale-Gennady Golovkin fight in New York on July 27 (Australian time).

``I’m getting offers from everywhere,’’ Soliman said.

``I’ve had offers to fight Andy Lee in Ireland, Anthony Mundine in Australia — I’ve had interest from Matthew Macklin and Martin Murray in the UK.

``I’ve been offered plenty of easy fights but I’m 40 now and I only want the really big fights at the end of my career. The biggest fight for me is to unify the world titles against the Geale-Golovkin winner.’’

Soliman won the IBF middleweight title, once held by Geale, when he totally dominated German Felix Sturm for a second time in May.

The victory capped an extraordinary 17-year roller-coaster career in professional boxing after early success as a Melbourne kickboxer.

Geale challenges Golovkin for the WBA title at Madison Square Garden in New York, with Soliman believing Golovkin has the power to win.

``Golovkin is the heavy favourite for a good reason,’’ Soliman said. ``If Geale is at his very best and boxes to his full potential he could pull off an upset. Golovkin will be hard to toss but no fighter is unbeatable.

``I think I have the style to frustrate Golovkin and hopefully he’ll be ready to fight me for the unified world title around November.’’

Soliman’s next mandatory challenger will be decided in an elimination fight between American Curtis Stevens, who gave Golovkin some tough moments before being knocked out at Madison Square Garden last year, and former WBO champ Hassan N’Dam of France.

A date and venue has yet to be decided.

Soliman said he expected the chunky Stevens to win the eliminator but said he wasn’t interested in facing him until 2015 after first facing Golovkin or Geale.
So he was knocking back lucrative offers for in his words ''easy fights'' against Murray,Macklin,Mundine and Lee. Because he wants Golovkin and thinks he has the style to frustrate Golovkin. And who does he end up fighting and losing too? Jermaine''brain bleed''Taylor who had 2 fights (9 rounds)in the previous 2 1/2 years. And as this is the boxrec forum and as bash for cash say's every serious fan uses boxrec as it's an excellent site for fighters records,rankings etc. Let's check out the quality of Jermaine's 2 opponents in the previous 2 1/2 years.

Juan Carlos Candelo ranked 186 with 13 losses.

Raul Munoz ranked 587 SMW with 15 losses

Then as a 5/1 on favourite suffers a knee injury in the 4th,5th or 6th round(depending on what version you believe) and loses. Now I know anything can happen in boxing but this is suss especially the fact Taylor by decision was paying $5. Very smart after he seen the destructive Golovkin clean up poor Gealey he went for the easy,big money option IMO. I would do the same thing if I was in his shoes(40 and not a major draw). :TU:
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Re: Anyone honestly believe Soliman vs Taylor was fixed?

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didn't bother reading cause I knew it would be dribble from the goose who is too scared to vote, lol.
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You seriously are a moron, you think he threw the fight to make some cash on the odds, while doing so threw his world title away along with other pay days, you seem to think he had to fight GGG, he could have fought ten other people without going near GGG, who cares if he said he only wants ......... Every fighter does that and you talk yourself up that you know the game, your a joke!
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don't be so gullible bud. its a smokescreen from the goose. he already admitted at the other joint that it was legit.

he started this nonsense when people laughed at him for being too gutless to vote. he's a coward. he made himself look like a complete knob and is now lashing out.

every time he gets exposed he goes on the attack like this, its hilarious. he'll resort to pulling u up on spelling mistakes when he gets desperate, pmsl.
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