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Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:04
by ikorolev
pound per pound wrote:I like GGG on points. GGG has too much skill and aggression. He'll hurt Ward to the head or body and make him think survival instead of offense.
Nobody can survive current Golovkin unless they are successfully playing their game. Survival mode is a prescription for getting stopped.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:05
by Bard of Boxrec
lefty wrote:ikorolev wrote:Yes, it will be a competitive fight, but we know that Andre's chin is not great, so I doubt that he will survive for 12 rounds. He will probably be even winning on points at the time when he is stopped.
He's been down once to Darnell Boone who in turn flattened stevenson and dropped Kovalev aswell
Hurt bad vs Kenny Kost too
Funny, that fight seems to have been taken down. I'm sure I watched it on YouTube just a few weeks ago. Interesting.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:16
by Tarkus
Man fought Froch, Abraham, Rodriguez, Kessler, Bika and never been close to be hurt and suddenly he has a poor chin because million years ago he was dropped by a guy who drops everyone. What I read here amaze me sometimes. Ward is tougher then a coffin nail, hello.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:18
by Ricky_
Tarkus wrote:Man fought Froch, Abraham, Rodriguez, Kessler, Bika and never been close to be hurt and suddenly he has a poor chin because million years ago he was dropped by a guy who drops everyone. What I read here amaze me sometimes. Ward is tougher then a coffin nail, hello.
Does he do chin training? Hook weights up to a goatee and flex his bottom lip?
Ward is like Waldimir Klitchko, he just became harder to hit and learned to completely nullify his opponent through craft & fouling.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:27
by Bard of Boxrec
Was just watching the Froch fight before. Noticed how badly Ward got marked up on his face for someone who didn't take so many punches.
Now imagine how Golovkin is gonna bust him up. A superior technique, superior pressure, superior power, speed, volume to Froch. Ward would get busted up good, and any swelling or blood or reason not to see GGG's punches coming is bad news for Andre.
Ricky_ wrote:Ward is like Waldimir Klitchko, he just became harder to hit and learned to completely nullify his opponent through craft & fouling.

Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:30
by Bard of Boxrec
fergusg wrote:ikorolev wrote:Nobody can survive current Golovkin...
I’ve said it before, so I’ll say it again…
Forget Andre Ward… if the Marvel & DC super-powered characters existed in the real-world, Gennady Golovkin would easily destroy Superman and the Hulk in consecutive bouts on the very same night, with one arm tied behind his back!
An even better idea, we should use GGG to keep the peace rather than risking the lives of members of the armed forces!
Damn straight.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:31
by lefty
Riddick Blowe wrote:lefty wrote:ikorolev wrote:Yes, it will be a competitive fight, but we know that Andre's chin is not great, so I doubt that he will survive for 12 rounds. He will probably be even winning on points at the time when he is stopped.
He's been down once to Darnell Boone who in turn flattened stevenson and dropped Kovalev aswell
Hurt bad vs Kenny Kost too
Funny, that fight seems to have been taken down. I'm sure I watched it on YouTube just a few weeks ago. Interesting.
Fairplay. I never saw that fight and didnt know that.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:37
by ikorolev
fergusg wrote:ikorolev wrote:Nobody can survive current Golovkin...
I’ve said it before, so I’ll say it again…
Forget Andre Ward… if the Marvel & DC super-powered characters existed in the real-world, Gennady Golovkin would easily destroy Superman and the Hulk in consecutive bouts on the very same night, with one arm tied behind his back!
An even better idea, we should use GGG to keep the peace rather than risking the lives of members of the armed forces!
Nice job, you motherf4cker, to take a phrase out of context. That was a reply to Ward losing a decision in survival mode and was meant to say that you can't fight GGG in survival mode:
Nobody can survive current Golovkin unless they are successfully playing their game. Survival mode is a prescription for getting stopped.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:50
by ikorolev
There are enough smart asses without you. Try to have people chuckle not at somebody's expense.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 14:35
by Tarkus
Ricky_ wrote:Tarkus wrote:Man fought Froch, Abraham, Rodriguez, Kessler, Bika and never been close to be hurt and suddenly he has a poor chin because million years ago he was dropped by a guy who drops everyone. What I read here amaze me sometimes. Ward is tougher then a coffin nail, hello.
Does he do chin training? Hook weights up to a goatee and flex his bottom lip?
Ward is like Waldimir Klitchko, he just became harder to hit and learned to completely nullify his opponent through craft & fouling.
Are you telling me none of hose fighters landed anything to check his chin. He got careless with a very dangerous puncher and got dropped. Thats all, everyone gets dropped, ask Froch.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 14:40
by ikorolev
Well, GGG tends to not only drop but stop fighters who have never been dropped before. Ward should join their company, and I prefer it to happen next year.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 14:45
by Tarkus
ikorolev wrote:Well, GGG tends to not only drop but stop fighters who have never been dropped before. Ward should join their company, and I prefer it to happen next year.
GGG can definitely drop Ward as well as Froch and anyone else around that weight class. But Ward is very tough and has at least good chin that's my point.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 16:37
by rzagza
Ward wins in very comfortable fashion. Don't even see this being all that competitive he just has too many wrinkles in his game.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 16:40
by rzagza
People judge ward off his chin when he was a novice can't be taken seriously. Hopkins Pacquaio these guys were dropped early in their careers. What's it mean. They learned how to fight. Not a coincidence his chin hasn't been tested as he's faced better fighters it's because he is a complete fighter now. Grasping at straws pointing at guys first fights as a pro really silly argument. Judge them for what they are now not what they were.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:10
by diddy
GGG !
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:19
by Chepppaaa
Ricky_ wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:depends on the ref and weight class
at middleweight: ggg crushes ward badly, because ward would be a a bit dyhardated and gggs power is for real
at super middleweight: right now ward uds ggg. maybe a somewhat more experienced gg would win at sm
but the ref plays an important role in this fight.
if there is a ref in it who has nothing against crabbing, holding hugging, holding while punching, simply dirty boxing and lets all excessive go, than ward uds ggg
but if is a ref who goes by the rules and deductes points for excessive hugging and holding than ward would easily have 2-3 point deductions, along with gg winning by his own skills.
tough contest.
middleweight wont happen, thats right.
but depending if ggg becomes a ppv star or not, than a catch weight would make sense. because ward can get with nobody a ppv event at super midd., imagine ggg beating the likes of cotto or canelo and becoming a big name star. than ggg-ward as an catch weight would make financielly very much sense.
Obviously it would take place at 168, Ward couldn't make Middleweight and suggest he would even try is absurd, he was a Middleweight in the am's as a teenager and was competing as a Light Heavyweight as an amateur before turning pro.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:20
by hurricanemitch14
Ward beats GGG hands down.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:29
by Freedom2013
I'm going to tell you this: Chavez Jr is not an easy fight. A lot of people say [it's easy] but that's not an easy fight. He's a big kid, he's a strong kid and he can punch." -Andre Ward, April, 2013
Right now, Froch is behind the scenes trying to get what he perceives as the weak link, which is Chavez Jr. - Andre Ward, January, 2014
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 19:30
by Freedom2013
With a fair referee who stops Ward from using illegal tactics, Golovkin would win by KO/TKO.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:26
by birdman77
Ward any day of wk and twice on Sundays. Like GGG but Ward is sliver ahead and that's being nice
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 23:27
by crusader
I'd back Ward, though I think it'd be competitive.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 00:25
by diddy
It amazes me that some people cant understand how good Andre Ward is. And why he's good. He is Bernard Hopkins with youth and speed.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 01:04
by ikorolev
diddy wrote:It amazes me that some people cant understand how good Andre Ward is. And why he's good. He is Bernard Hopkins with youth and speed.
Does it mean that by beating him Golovkin will also beat Hopkins ?
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 01:20
by ScottDetonator
I think we'd all be waiting for GGG to land the big bomb and waiting... and waiting... while we get to watch a tangled up mess in the ring.
One thing I will say is, Golovkin doesn't seem to need that much space to get off those monster shots, so Ward might be playing into his hands by getting in the clinch.
It's not a great style matchup but would be great to see if Golovkin can take Ward down a peg or two, his inactivity and status has become tedious to say the least.
Re: Golovkin vs Ward. Who wins?
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 02:36
by diddy
ikorolev wrote:diddy wrote:It amazes me that some people cant understand how good Andre Ward is. And why he's good. He is Bernard Hopkins with youth and speed.
Does it mean that by beating him Golovkin will also beat Hopkins ?
You can bet your ass if he beat Ward he would smack Hopkins. But he won't beat Ward so it will be moot.