fergusg wrote:SenorPipino wrote:As for Fergusg, I'm curious. How much do these PPV telecasts run in the U.K? You say Froch and Groves attracted 900,000 buys when they last hooked up.
I'm assuming that the PPV prices are exceptionally cheap, compared to the U.S. to garner that many viewers for a fairly mundane matchup.
If the British PPV price tag was in the vicinity of $60+, as it often is here, I question whether Froch-Groves could do 100,000.
Carl Froch's rematch against George Groves was Britain's highest-grossing fight ever. Here are the stats (Source = Daily Mail & ESPN):
• Exchange Rate per £1 (as of the 6th August, 2014) = $1.68535
• Pay-Per-Vew (900K sales at $28.57 each) = $24,489,000
• Ticket Sales (77,000 at an average $131.46 each) = $10,122,420
• International TV Income = $1,000,000
• Sponsorship = $421,338
• Merchandising and Hospitality = $421,338
• Total = $36,454,095
• Purses for headliners (Froch $13,482,800 Groves $3,370,700) = $16,853,500
• Purses for key undercard fighters (Anthony Joshua & James DeGale) = $842,675
Here are some more interesting figures that should underline Carl Froch’s popularity:
• Forbes estimates Carl Froch’s net worth to be around $34m to $44m (biggest purse against Groves II at $13.5m).
• By the end of 2012, Celebrity Networth estimated Chavez Jr’s net worth to be around $4m (biggest purse against Martinez at $3m).
• Gennady Golovkin’s net worth has been estimated (by Sport Rich List) to be around $5.4m (biggest purse against Rubio at $900K).
Biggest US cable fights:
• Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. versus Marco Antonio Rubio - HBO, 1.9 million
• Gennady Golovkin versus Curtis Stevens – HBO, 1.4 million
• Carl Froch versus Mikkel Kessler II – HBO, 1.1 million (aired on a Saturday afternoon in the US, which is not considered prime time)
Note: I don’t have the figures for Froch’s fights against George Groves, but I believe they’re probably smaller than the numbers achieved by the Kessler rematch.
Here’s a list of Carl Froch’s biggest purses (as per his autobiography):
• Jermain Taylor – $600,000
• Super 6 Tournament – $750K to $1 Million Per fight
• Lucian Bute – $1 Million
• Mikkel Kessler (rematch) – $6 million
• George Groves (first fight) - $6 Million
• George Groves (rematch): $13.5 million
I don’t care what anyone thinks, purse size is usually proportionate to the size of the fan base that funds the payday, because it would not be economically viable to do so otherwise... and the money has to come from somewhere!
Bob Arum, says Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is more interested in accepting a fight with Carl Froch than he is in a possible fight with Gennady Golovkin:
"I think, realistically, the fight that Chavez would most like is with Carl Froch," Arum told BS.com.
Tom Loeffler claims that Carl Froch is an even bigger name than Andre Ward, because he said that Golovkin would move up to the super-middleweight division to fight the man from Nottingham, but not the S.O.G:
“Carl Forch is another one. He sold 80,000 tickets in Wembley stadium. Gennady would go to the UK and fight a guy like Froch. So while we have a lot of respect for Andre [Ward]...I just don’t think the finances are there right yet. It’s not a pay per view fight, Andre’s going to want a big chunk of money. And if Gennady goes up in weight, he’s going to want a big chunk of money and I just don’t think economically that’s going to work.”
Loeffer is quoted as saying: "I've reached out to Eddie Hearn and I said that Gennady will come to the United Kingdom to fight Carl Froch at 168lbs because he knows that he has a big numbers of supporters there."
When a fighter has such a sizeable fan-base and generates a lot of revenue, then it’s not really that surprising that both Golovkin and Chavez Jr. are clamouring for a fight against Carl Froch.