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Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 17:59
by Manchester Hitman
Quigg is active but thats the only positive effect that fast eddie has had on his career. Quigg is going nowhere and it appears fast eddie is completley incapable of landing the Frampton fight so hes fcked..shame really
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 02:48
by Old bones Ian
At least with a Japanese boxer you are usually guaranteed an entertaining fight.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 03:09
by Boxing Prospect
Its now 4pm and none of their papers (online at least) are running this story. Yet one does have a huge feature on Koki's US debut.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 03:26
by keirw
Manchester Hitman wrote:Quigg is active but thats the only positive effect that fast eddie has had on his career. Quigg is going nowhere and it appears fast eddie is completley incapable of landing the Frampton fight so hes fcked..shame really
Surely 50% of the blame needs to be with the Mcguigans, it takes two to tango.
Isn't Frampton injured at the moment anyway?
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 07:40
by Boxing Prospect
Fair enough, Kaneko have confirmed the bout in the last few hours... Still have a feeling it'll fall through and we'll see Quigg vs last minute Bantamweight
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 07:42
by Counter-puncher
keirw wrote:Manchester Hitman wrote:Quigg is active but thats the only positive effect that fast eddie has had on his career. Quigg is going nowhere and it appears fast eddie is completley incapable of landing the Frampton fight so hes fcked..shame really
Surely 50% of the blame needs to be with the Mcguigans, it takes two to tango.
Isn't Frampton injured at the moment anyway?
but as Frampton bring 20,000+ fans i can see why his camp would take the attitude that Quigg needs him more than vice-versa
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 08:14
by keirw
Counter-puncher wrote:keirw wrote:Manchester Hitman wrote:Quigg is active but thats the only positive effect that fast eddie has had on his career. Quigg is going nowhere and it appears fast eddie is completley incapable of landing the Frampton fight so hes fcked..shame really
Surely 50% of the blame needs to be with the Mcguigans, it takes two to tango.
Isn't Frampton injured at the moment anyway?
but as Frampton bring 20,000+ fans i can see why his camp would take the attitude that Quigg needs him more than vice-versa
Frampton should be the A side, there's no doubt about that, I'm just pointing out that Eddie won't be the only one at fault if the fight doesn't happen as he seems to genuinely want the fight.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 08:24
by Datsue
keirw wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:keirw wrote:
Surely 50% of the blame needs to be with the Mcguigans, it takes two to tango.
Isn't Frampton injured at the moment anyway?
but as Frampton bring 20,000+ fans i can see why his camp would take the attitude that Quigg needs him more than vice-versa
Frampton should be the A side, there's no doubt about that, I'm just pointing out that Eddie won't be the only one at fault if the fight doesn't happen as he seems to genuinely want the fight.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... on-7733312
I think the only way a fight can happen between Scott Quigg and Carl Frampton is if Carl leaves Barry McGuigan.
I don’t think it can happen otherwise.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 09:05
by Counter-puncher
keirw wrote:
Frampton should be the A side, there's no doubt about that, I'm just pointing out that Eddie won't be the only one at fault if the fight doesn't happen as he seems to genuinely want the fight.
i don't know mate, from my not-very-well-informed-on-the-business-side-of-it perspective, to me, if Quigg demanded 50%, i would say Frampton would be in the right telling him to sling it.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 09:09
by rio
Think all fans agree that frampton should be the 'A' side. He brings the fans and the world title. There lies the problem, hearn thinks its a 50/50 becuase he has sky which is complete BS he has an obligation to sky subscribers to make this fight or he is not doing his job. In my opinion he is making quigg a bit of a laughing stock among fans, he gets no respect and this is because of hearn
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 09:12
by Counter-puncher
plus we all suspect Frampton would fvckin cane him anyway
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 10:00
by domjon
Counter-puncher wrote:plus we all suspect Frampton would fvckin cane him anyway
speak for yourself
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 10:06
by Counter-puncher
my mistake. i believe most of us do.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 10:32
by jackukmma
jameswilson wrote:Slag Quigg off for the late replacement opponents like Munyai and Jamoye. This guy is an absolutely fine opponent if it is indeed the guy for the job. Wake would have been the best realistic available guy (they have openly said they don't want Rigo just yet, Santa Cruz aint coming over here, Martinez won't fight so soon after the Frampton defeat and Frampton and Avalos are tied up.) This guy is only just below Wake in both independent computerised rankings (boxrec 8 and IBO 5.)
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Why is Avalos tied up? Frampton is injured and unavailable, Avalos is now in the same stable. That fight would of been easy to make?
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 10:40
by Datsue
jackukmma wrote:jameswilson wrote:Slag Quigg off for the late replacement opponents like Munyai and Jamoye. This guy is an absolutely fine opponent if it is indeed the guy for the job. Wake would have been the best realistic available guy (they have openly said they don't want Rigo just yet, Santa Cruz aint coming over here, Martinez won't fight so soon after the Frampton defeat and Frampton and Avalos are tied up.) This guy is only just below Wake in both independent computerised rankings (boxrec 8 and IBO 5.)
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Why is Avalos tied up? Frampton is injured and unavailable, Avalos is now in the same stable. That fight would of been easy to make?
Avalos is busy "passing on mandatory shot at Rigondeaux" which was scheduled for November, word is he's trying to get a Frampton gig.
Re: Scott Quigg to fight Hidenori Otake
Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 11:10
by jameswilson
jackukmma wrote:jameswilson wrote:Slag Quigg off for the late replacement opponents like Munyai and Jamoye. This guy is an absolutely fine opponent if it is indeed the guy for the job. Wake would have been the best realistic available guy (they have openly said they don't want Rigo just yet, Santa Cruz aint coming over here, Martinez won't fight so soon after the Frampton defeat and Frampton and Avalos are tied up.) This guy is only just below Wake in both independent computerised rankings (boxrec 8 and IBO 5.)
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Why is Avalos tied up? Frampton is injured and unavailable, Avalos is now in the same stable. That fight would of been easy to make?
Avalos and Frampton will fight in the new year apparently.