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ponch wrote:

ArmaanCFC wrote:I think styles make fights and Khan would have been a better option financially and stylistically rather than the Maidana rematch.

Wake me up when Khan becomes a force at 147 for the top guys to duck.

edit: I understand some people, particularly Khan fans, might think Khan has a style to trouble Floyd. But it's an absurd leap to think Floyd ducked the guy when he had no legitimate claim to being considered in the first place. If Khan has the goods, why can't he produce it in the ring...

ikorolev wrote:Mayweather's team introduced Khan into conversations themselves. Didn't they do Khan vs Maidana poll ? Nobody else was even discussed.

fergusg wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

fergusg wrote:To be honest, if you consider all the black fighters currently competing within Floyd’s weight range (i.e. 140lbs to 154lbs), most of them aren’t viable opponents:
• Lamont Peterson - Has been KO'd in three rounds against Lucas Matthysse… and also "temporarily" failed a drug test
• Adrien Broner - Fight probably would have never happened as they’re “bros”, coupled with the fact that he dropped a wide decision to Marcos Maidana
• Jermell Charlo - Merely a prospect
• Jermall Charlo - Merely a prospect
• Erislandy Lara - Not a great resume and has only won four of his last eight bouts, so a fight against him would be difficult to sell
• Ishe Smith - Recently lost by decision to Carlos Molina
• Cornelius Bundrage - Recently lost by decision to Ishe Smith
• Demetrius Andrade - Only recently arrived onto the 154lb scene as a top-tier fighter, but has a limited resume & a small fan-base
• Austin Trout - Not a stylistically enjoyable fighter to watch and has suffered recent losses to Canelo Alvarez & Erislandy Lara
• Shawn Porter - Has only recently arrived onto the world stage and lost his most recent bout against Kell Brook
• Devon Alexander - Has a recent loss on his record against Shawn Porter
• Kell Brook - Has only recently won a world title and had previously either declined or withdrawn from title bouts against Cornelius Bundrage, Manny Pacquiao and Devon Alexander
• Timothy Bradley - Is contractually tied to Top Rank & HBO, so he'll never be granted an opportunity to face Mayweather… and Bradley knew this when he signed Bob Arum's contract extension
• Keith Thurman - A talented fighter, but has limited drawing power, isn't a "real" world champion and his resume isn't good enough to be considered a viable opponent for the man sitting on the pound-for-pound throne

Half of that list is just as viable or more viable than Ortiz.

What do you mean? :??

At the time he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr., Victor Ortiz was ranked number two by Ring Magazine at welterweight; was only 24 years old (a young lion); had beaten Andre Berto in his previous bout; and held the WBC 147lb title. His resume (as of the 17th September, 2011) was very good!

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

fergusg wrote: What do you mean? :??

At the time he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr., Victor Ortiz was ranked number two by Ring Magazine at welterweight; was only 24 years old (a young lion); had beaten Andre Berto in his previous bout; and held the WBC 147lb title. His resume (as of the 17th September, 2011) was very good!

Meaning that:
- Ring Magazine sucks
- Andre Berto sucks
- WBC sucks
- Resume based conclusions suck

People were moderately excited about this tune-up fight when it took place, because Floyd had faced a 16 month period of inactivity and facing an accomplished, physically-massive and a highly-rated hungry young lion. Hindsight cannot take away that fact!

tiny_acres wrote:He won't fight Klingons,Romulans Jedi'd or Sith's.He should be banned.

ikorolev wrote: • Keith Thurman - A talented fighter, but has limited drawing power, isn't a "real" world champion and his resume isn't good enough to be considered a viable opponent for the man sitting on the pound-for-pound throne

ALI wrote:

ikorolev wrote: • Keith Thurman - A talented fighter, but has limited drawing power, isn't a "real" world champion and his resume isn't good enough to be considered a viable opponent for the man sitting on the pound-for-pound throne

And i thought Keith Thurman was white!

What's his lineage?

Badhusker wrote:There has probably been a study, or at least half a study....on Mayweather's ducking of black fighters, or half black fighters. I suppose it is only half a duck if he ducks someone like Thurman though. If Floyd ducks someone like Khan, who is kind of brown skinned, it should only be considered like a 1/4 of a duck then?

What really throws me off is what if a 1/2 black guy beats a black guy, and Mayweather ducks him? 1/4 or 1/2 duck? Or say if a black guy beats a yellow guy? A yellow guy should only be a 1/8th duck, right? Are there yellow guys?

The guy that should be forced to explain it all to us is Devon Alexander - the guy that grunts when he throws punches to let judges know when he throws them..you know...the guy that looks half retarded.... the one that quit against Bradley.

Badhusker wrote:There has probably been a study, or at least half a study....on Mayweather's ducking of black fighters, or half black fighters. I suppose it is only half a duck if he ducks someone like Thurman though. If Floyd ducks someone like Khan, who is kind of brown skinned, it should only be considered like a 1/4 of a duck then?

What really throws me off is what if a 1/2 black guy beats a black guy, and Mayweather ducks him? 1/4 or 1/2 duck? Or say if a black guy beats a yellow guy? A yellow guy should only be a 1/8th duck, right? Are there yellow guys?

The guy that should be forced to explain it all to us is Devon Alexander - the guy that grunts when he throws punches to let judges know when he throws them..you know...the guy that looks half retarded.... the one that quit against Bradley.